Again, Buuhan nearly destroyed reality itself by screaming, and Vegetto punched through his multiverse barrier. Vegetto would vaporize TTGL with a wave of his hand... along with the universe they're in.
So because Superman nearly destroyed the universe by going too fast was by a chain reaction, he's actually not that fast? That doesn't make sense. If you can destroy reality with a scream, be it chain reaction or not, you can still destroy reality with a scream.
It's cannon to the anime. In the manga, Buu was still said by Supreme kai to be a galaxy buster, which is still much more than anything Superman could dream to muster.
You believe the scream was multiversal in power, when in fact it was not the verse he was destroying, but the fabric of reality. Something that does not have a real durability.
Think of those houses with a single major support beam in a house. If you broke it and the house came down, you don't suddenly have building level strength.
What exact quote states galaxy buster?
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If reality itself didn't have durability, then it would just collapse by someone moving. Reality can be broken(at least in DBZ*by shear power*), by being able to release more power than a dimension can hold, causing the power to seep into other dimensions. Creating enough of those will weaken reality, and cause it to shatter. Like if you threw enough rocks at a window, it would eventually break.
That's why Gotenks could easily break through reality with just a scream.
The quote was when Supreme Kai was taking them to Buu, and he said, "In only a couple of short years, Majin Buu destroyed countless planets, and even entire galaxies.", meaning Kid Buu was galaxy level. I saw someone post the scan on this site actually, I forget where though.
Reality does not have a quantifiable durability. If a fiction has something that can break the borders of reality, that's all well and good. But no force can be applied to it. Even if effects come from the cause, it's not direct so while the character can have the technical ability, they do not have the sheer force.
In years.. meaning over a long period of constant destruction. Can you provide the scan? I dint recall galaxy being mentioned, and iirc they only have a few.
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That might be true in real life, but Gotenks easily yelled and concentrated his ki, which made a hole in dimensions just in front of him. He made a controlled tear in dimensions, so you can obviously apply force to reality itself. Ki is the same thing as force in DBZ, it's just that it can be used in many different ways than just pushing or punching something. If someone can break holes in reality, which would in turn cause a chain reaction destroying reality itself, they can destroy reality.
A couple of years means 2 or slightly more years. He didn't say decades or centuries, he said a couple years. I'll look for the scan, and if I can remember exactly where it is, I'll post it. Plus, I don't know why everyone says there are only 4 galaxies in DBZ, when that was only stated in the movies, which everyone also says aren't cannon. DBZ-verse is just as big as any other verse. They did say in BOTG's though that Bills could destroy quadrants just by getting angry, which is a quarter of the universe in DBZ.
Well, think of it this way. Has anyone from Gurren Lagann broken reality? Reckless reality breaking in DBZ can destroy all of creation(i.e. the multiverse), so, DBZ characters Gotenks level and above can easily multiverse bust with a scream. Breaking reality itself would destroy the multiverse, and in turn, easily destroy TTGL. Plus, DBZ characters can create biospheres from ki which let's them survive in nothingness, like Broly when he was a day old and flew his father and himself off their exploding planet and across the universe in a sphere of ki.
You didn't see the right scan then. The original translation(not the Kanzenban re-write) had Supreme Kai state "Buu had destroyed countless planets and even entire galaxies at once, in just a couple short years.".
Vegetto evaporates TTGL with a kiai shout in base form.
Stopped at the second sentence as you did not answer my question. Can you, or can you not, explain and quantify the force of breaking the barrier of reality?
Will have to wait for you to show it then, because no one else seems to know what you're talking about.
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If you read my entire post, I explained that since if reality is destroyed, so is the multiverse, that reality has multiverse plus durability. The multiverse is part of reality, so it's not like destroying Superman with kryptonite or killing Buu with pure ki. The multiverse is a part of reality, and reality's durability. To break reality, you literally break a hole in the multiverse.
Again, read my entire post, stop being an ignorant fantard, and actually put up some kind of debater other than "reality doesn't have durability, herp derp". Again, if that was true, anyone could break it with the slightest movement, as it is all around everything.
You just went back to saying how reality was in shambles. I asked you to quantify it, especially after admitting that it's not a direct 'bust' and is a chain reaction. If you honestly believe that anyone who can break realities barrier is a universe+ buster, then you really need go read more fiction because hundreds of characters have been able to do so. Hulk, Supes, SBP, a bunch of manga character etc. One thing that have in common is that neither of them are universal or multiversal. If you can't quantify it, or use it as an actual attack, you have nothing.
That's just illogical. On thinking everything has a durability, that breaking the support beam makes you a house buster, and thinking someone who has never watches TTGL could be a fantard. Nice try though, but I prefer actual evidence over fan desires.
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