i never said who would win in a battle between the two, besides this could be argued vice versa anyway...
i was merely pointing out the fact that since Starrk is the Primera it would be safe to assume that he is more powerful than the Segunda...
Starrk was already very powerful even before Aizen met him, so powerful it made him lonely since hollows died by merely being in his presence...
looking back, another difference between the top two Espadas could be seen on how they were recruited...
Barragan was forced to comply with Aizen after he decimated his so called army in a single move...
Starrk joining Aizen was more his choice as he was seeking companions that time, the only prerequisite that they be strong enough to survive being with him, there was no coercion at all on the part of Aizen...
That's because Baraggan was arrogant and belligerent, and didn't like Aizen. Starrk wanted companionship. The way they were recruited is no indication of their power, only their personalities.
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I guess because he was killing all other Hollows... we don't know how strong they were though, but they could not have been Vasto Lordes, and probably weren't Adjuchas either because then his pressure would have killed the weaker shinigami during his battle. I'm inclined to think they weren't menos at all and were just some no-name hollows since Lilynette is apparently weaker than a Gillian.
Still a good feat to his credit, mind you. But no reason to think Hollows like Baraggan were totally outclassed.
It's entirely up to speculation at this point. So we can speculate that Starrk didn't know how to properly control his reiatsu at that point, but did learn how to do so some time after joining Aizen. Lilynette never died probably due to the fact that she was his Zanpakutou in a manner of speaking.
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I thought only a pure Hollow could "evolve?" Why is Nel? She has not shown to be anywhere near as powerful as Ulquiorra, Barragan, or Starrk, and was only the third Espada of a weaker generation, where she was only a little stronger than current Nnoitra.
Well assuming Starrk and Barragan were around back then, they would definately be above her. Nel as well. Maybe Halibel, though I remain unimpressed by her.
(I assume EA is referring to power level when she says VL, as there is no way an Arrancar can become a VL, that's like an impossible devolution in status, going from an Arrancar to Hollow)
EA believes that Nnoitra gained VL level power. As pre-child Nel was stronger than current Nnoitra, logically, she should have at least VL-level power.
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1. Ah, that is true, but you must consider that she was already an Arrancar by then, increasing her power, she could have merely been an Adjuchas, but after being powered was of a Vasto Lorde level, which I do not doubt.
2. Nnoitra is a physical combatant, that is his specialty as well.
3. I have made thread derailment an art form hun, you know that.
The way I see it, Nnoitra has enough power to qualify as a VL (in power), such that he is at least a low-level 'VL'.
The other three you mentioned are leagues beyond any of the other Arrancar we've seen. High level VL's if you will.
I blame you both.
Grimmjow wins! He's much cooler than that stuck-up pretty-boy.
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...I even stated why (edited).
Personal opinion, woman. It's the core of our debates, and it's mostly why we all disagree at times.
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You're wrong there m'lady.
Grimmjow's is blue I might add. Which is as much WIN as pink. So Blue's WIN cancels out Pinks' WIN, which leaves just kewlness. Ergo, Grimmjow wins!
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