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That Hulk wasn't mindless either. It was a hybrid maestro hulk that fought Thor for an hour. This shows despite his intelligence and what not that Thor can trade blows with him despite his increasing powers for an hour at least. He was also intelligent.

The fight was a stalemate when the government tried bombing them both.


I just put up an example and you still ignore it. Thanos slapped around Mar-vell while weakened who is far above top tier. I feel Thanos mauls him hand to hand.


That version of the hulk was also weaker. Thanos also had his other powers as well. In this scenario, thanos is a mildly angry, highly intelligent hulk without the ability to amp against one that is also highly intelligent (banner level intelligence iirc), with what amounts to the same level of damage soak in the form of regenerative abilities as well as innate durability, and the ability to amp through anger quite quickly. As I said before, if thanos takes out this version of hulk as soon as the bell rings with a furious physical assault, he takes it, if not, and he gives wwh the opportunity to get angry and amp, he loses. It's as simple as that.

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That version of the hulk was also weaker. Thanos also had his other powers as well. In this scenario, thanos is a mildly angry, highly intelligent hulk without the ability to amp against one that is also highly intelligent (banner level intelligence iirc), with what amounts to the same level of damage soak in the form of regenerative abilities as well as innate durability, and the ability to amp through anger quite quickly. As I said before, if thanos takes out this version of hulk as soon as the bell rings with a furious physical assault, he takes it, if not, and he gives wwh the opportunity to get angry and amp, he loses. It's as simple as that.
Thanos didn't use any powers against Mar-vell he just dominated him physically.

You don't have any proof he can take out someone on Thanos' level whereas I have proof a weakened Thanos can dominate someone a lot more powerful than any Hulk in Mar-vell.


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As Cho (and almost EVERYBODY ELSE) stated throughout WWH, Hulk ALWAYS holds back and punches according to what his opponents can handle.

Thanos will die, again and again and again, no other option here.


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As Cho (and almost EVERYBODY ELSE) stated throughout WWH, Hulk ALWAYS holds back and punches according to what his opponents can handle.

Thanos will die, again and again and again, no other option here.
Who did he face on Thanos' level in ww hulk ?


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Who did he face on Thanos' level in ww hulk ?

no one on Thanos' level, but he faced far higher though smile


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no one on Thanos' level, but he faced far higher though smile
Such as ?


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Such as ?

IronMan, Thing, Colossus, Wolverine (he can cut Thanos easy, yet he couldn't cut Hulk!), the entire X-Men team...

I've yet to see anything impressive from Thanos, strength-wise. hell, an exhausted Surfer had the same power-output as Thanos!


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IronMan, Thing, Colossus, Wolverine (he can cut Thanos easy, yet he couldn't cut Hulk!), the entire X-Men team...

I've yet to see anything impressive from Thanos, strength-wise. hell, an exhausted Surfer had the same power-output as Thanos!
You just said these guys are higher than Thanos ? Do you even know who Thanos is ? You compared Ironman to Thanos. I think I am going to be sick.

I just named an example of him dominating Mar-vell. He's also overpowered prof. Hulk and the Thing yet somehow you don't believe he's strong. Wowsers.

Thanos has easily beaten Surfer to near death so we know Thanos is more powerful. Hulk's never beaten Surfer either unless Surfer gave up.


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Thanos didn't use any powers against Mar-vell he just dominated him physically.

You don't have any proof he can take out someone on Thanos' level whereas I have proof a weakened Thanos can dominate someone a lot more powerful than any Hulk in Mar-vell.


Marvel also never showed physical abilities on the level of wwh. All he did was blast things. In fact the only thing that I saw him do physically was badyslam nova... so I don't see what your point was by refing Mar-Vell who's main ability was energy manipulation. That doesn't really matter.

Give me a scan proving Lord Marvell's physical strength is over wwh's.

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Marvel also never showed physical abilities on the level of wwh. All he did was blast things. In fact the only thing that I saw him do physically was badyslam nova... so I don't see what your point was by refing Mar-Vell who's main ability was energy manipulation. That doesn't really matter.

Give me a scan proving Lord Marvell's physical strength is over wwh's.
Mar-vell is powerful and easily treating Nova and the Surfer like complete noobs is power in spades.


His overall power level is as evidenced by his feats.


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You just said these guys are higher than Thanos ? Do you even know who Thanos is ? You compared Ironman to Thanos. I think I am going to be sick.

what? seriously?

Colossus is really strong, Thing has been the muscles for the Fantastic Four for decades and Wolverine needs no introduction. give the guys their due, they are really quite powerful.


I've yet to see why you rate Thanos so highly in terms of strength. of course I used to think he was quite smart, but then Thanos Imperative disabused me of that no expression.


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what? seriously?

Colossus is really strong, Thing has been the muscles for the Fantastic Four for decades and Wolverine needs no introduction. give the guys their due, they are really quite powerful.


I've yet to see why you rate Thanos so highly in terms of strength. of course I used to think he was quite smart, but then Thanos Imperative disabused me of that no expression.
Thanos already overpowered both the thing an dprof. Hulk while mocking their strength so if you think their awesome then Thanos is uber awesome.

Thanos overcame Mar-vell and showed he's stronger than him, more powerful than him, and smarter than him. Thanos was the most intelligent character in the entire arc.


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Thanos already overpowered both the thing an dprof. Hulk while mocking their strength so if you think their awesome then Thanos is uber awesome.

Thanos overcame Mar-vell and showed he's stronger than him, more powerful than him, and smarter than him. Thanos was the most intelligent character in the entire arc.

when did Thanos and Hulk fight? scans?

yeah and not seen any strength feats for the cancerverse Mar-vell.

WWH is by definition the strongest one there is. Thanos is ... just a cosmic suppository.


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His power level was superior but it wasn't so vastly superior he was stomping elite top tiers into the dust on panel. Yes, he prevailed but he worked for it.

Show me some examples then of current Hulk please. I keep asking for examples as Thanos has showings where he is tossing around Lord Mar-vell like a ragdooll which proves my point and this guy is above top tier whereas the people Hulk beat aren't.


How can I show you an example of a hero killing people like thanos? You are asking for the impossible. Thanos has no morals and when he fight he doesn't hold back. Not a single human died during ALL of hulks scuffles and it was stated why no one was harmed, " he held back a large percentage of his power and the crazy thing about it is, he was still winning. Herc even stated that wwh was holding back against him.

Hulk would trounce thanos in a fight like this.


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Mar-vell is powerful and easily treating Nova and the Surfer like complete noobs is power in spades.


His overall power level is as evidenced by his feats.


I didn't ask about his energy manipulation. I asked for his PHYSICAL strength feats.

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I didn't ask about his energy manipulation. I asked for his PHYSICAL strength feats.


Marvell doesn't have any type of physical strength showings, he would get trounced by hulk also. Majority if not ALL of his attacks were energy based so quan saying that thanos trounced marvell physically is a pale argument since it doesn't apply to wwh who has better feats.


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when did Thanos and Hulk fight? scans?

yeah and not seen any strength feats for the cancerverse Mar-vell.

WWH is by definition the strongest one there is. Thanos is ... just a cosmic suppository.
In a quasar issue. I mean if you're this uber hulk fan please don't tell me this is the first time you are hearing of this.

WW Hulk despite being very strong isn't the strongest one there is that's hyperbole. I agree he's the strongest top tier there is but Thanos is well above top tiers.

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How can I show you an example of a hero killing people like thanos? You are asking for the impossible. Thanos has no morals and when he fight he doesn't hold back. Not a single human died during ALL of hulks scuffles and it was stated why no one was harmed, " he held back a large percentage of his power and the crazy thing about it is, he was still winning. Herc even stated that wwh was holding back against him.

Hulk would trounce thanos in a fight like this.
He doesn't have to kill anyone I just asked for a feat. You don't even understand what it is I am even asking for. Show me these feats which prove your claims.

You keep saying it despite not offering one iota of evidence.

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I didn't ask about his energy manipulation. I asked for his PHYSICAL strength feats.
The Nova and Surfer feat. The thing is he wasn't restricted from using his powers against Thanos he was just easily dominated by him much in the same way the Hulk would be as well.


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In a quasar issue. I mean if you're this uber hulk fan please don't tell me this is the first time you are hearing of this.

WW Hulk despite being very strong isn't the strongest one there is that's hyperbole. I agree he's the strongest top tier there is but Thanos is well above top tiers.

He doesn't have to kill anyone I just asked for a feat. You don't even understand what it is I am even asking for. Show me these feats which prove your claims.

You keep saying it despite not offering one iota of evidence.

The Nova and Surfer feat. The thing is he wasn't restricted from using his powers against Thanos he was just easily dominated by him much in the same way the Hulk would be as well.


Again, "show us that Marvell is ANYTHING comparable to hulk PHYSICALLY". Stop blurting out crap that YOU dont even have an understanding or even an answer for. YES, Marvell blasted the Surfer and Nova and hurt them, now show us some physical feats that puts him above Hulk. Yes, Marvell can blast better than Hulk along with THOUSANDS of others since hulk doesnt shoot energy blast, now show us some physical feats that put Marvell above hulk.

Ghost Rider and Extremis Ironman energy output is far greater than Hulk (since he doesnt have any) and they were still getting stomped by him. Show us some physical feats from marvell to make Thanos physically taking him out impressive. Marvell might not even be a 100 tonner for all we know. He might just be a weakling with an high amount of energy. Look at Proteus... he had enough power to take out a planet but still got owned by Colossus. Look at Black Bolt, he has one of the best energy output in Marvel but got taken out by Vulcan.

I'll be waiting on those physical feats from marvell.


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