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Too strong to handle by the Guardians of the Galaxy. That;s some strong team, gosh and gollies, I bet The JLA would have fits with those guys.
Wtf are you talking about, Starlord had the cosmic cube plus Thanos was weak and had just killed 9 million Universal church faith believers..smh


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Weak rebuttal, we can get off of IG Thanos at any time unless you are willing to say that Wolverine did not cut him, and it was all a figment of the imagination. Logic has nothing to do with anything, I simply stated what happened and you seemed to take it in another direction.

Your bad not mine.
I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm saying it wasn't an indication of anything.

Also, I didn't take it in another direction, you used it as an example to show that Thanos was less durable than Hulk and even tried to back it up.

I'm amazed at how stupid it was is all. And you're still going on


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You didn't see Lobo in the same scan?

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You mean in a non cannon story lulz, the same story where Thanos manhandled Captain Marvel,WonderWoman and GL Klye something Hulk couldnt do.

Like bran said laughable, using non cannon stuff desperate.



Fine not canonical. It's dismissed. What happened durin IG however was something else. Was that canonical?

Was the Hulk jumping on Thanos, and Thanos turning him into the size of a mouse canonical? Why didn't Thanos just brush him aside? Why?


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He was weaker at an earlier point in the story. Which manifested in him slurring his speech and being doubled over in pain on his knees. It was clear when he was weak. It was also clear he was recovering. By the time Drax killed him, none of those manifestations of weakness were present. None of them.

Let's not make excuses. Nothing suggested that the antimatter completely disintegrated Thanos because he was weak. And even if he could be stronger, then fine, the antimatter only disintegrates half his body then.
When he came back from being destroyed Cosmo said he was harder to read because of his power he had regained iirc or words to such effect but it never said he had fully regained his power as like i said DnA was obsessed with telling power lv, blast power etc that they would have said full power or words to that degree as they did about his early power lvl.


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Fine not canonical. It's dismissed. What happened durin IG however was something else. Was that canonical?

Was the Hulk jumping on Thanos, and Thanos turning him into the size of a mouse canonical? Why didn't Thanos just brush him aside? Why?
laughing out loud you're terrible, just not good at all. Awful

Thanos was scared of Hulk when he had the IG. There's no other reason Stoic. No other reason.


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I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm saying it wasn't an indication of anything.

Also, I didn't take it in another direction, you used it as an example to show that Thanos was less durable than Hulk and even tried to back it up.

I'm amazed at how stupid it was is all. And you're still going on



Nope I'm stating that on panel the Hulk was seen as becoming durable enough that Wendigo's claws bounced off of him, as did Bi-Beast, and Arm'Cheddon's attacks, they didn't even register. Did you see that book? Did you also not realize that the Hulk increased his strength from that point exponentially? So if my logic is correct, that would also mean that his durability grew as well. Is my logic still flawed? Explain if you think it is.


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It was the explosion and the energy from Betty/Hulk that killed them.

The palnet were nothing like as close as they were in Hulk/Betts feat. Stop lying Craver they was a small piece left and Thanos and Drax only LOCKED UP, Hulk and Betty had to hit each other.

Didnt need to as Drax used all his might against Thanos in the continuing story which Thanos laughed off and 1 shotted him showing that that kind of power is no trouble to Thanos.


I know it was the explosion from Betty and Hulk that killed them which was much more than just planetary.

Post the scan...half of the planet was left during the Drax and Thanos fight. Betty and Hulk punched at each other without touching a thing and caused a dwstruction that Thanos only dreams about.

Are we using the "sharing fts argument"? Ok...let's do this. WWH walked through Red Hulk...the same Red Hulk that killed Surfer, killed two skyfathers, walked through Odin force Thor and withstood an attack from a pissed Galactus. There, I liked doing that. Using ABC logic, I still win buddy.


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[B]Fine not canonical. It's dismissed. What happened durin IG however was something else. Was that canonical?
Big deal he cut him, so what..Logan has cut open WWH(carving open his back)King Thor and pre retcon Molecule Man

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Was the Hulk jumping on Thanos, and Thanos turning him into the size of a mouse canonical? Why didn't Thanos just brush him aside? Why?
Did you not see how Thanos was using different ways on dealing with the heroes showing the versatility of the depowered IG, Hell Thanos with the depowered IG shattered Caps shield with 1 punch, dont tell me you think that Hulk could stand up to that.


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When he came back from being destroyed Cosmo said he was harder to read because of his power he had regained iirc or words to such effect but it never said he had fully regained his power as like i said DnA was obsessed with telling power lv, blast power etc that they would have said full power or words to that degree as they did about his early power lvl.
We don't need someone stating the obvious, "Oh I see Thanos that you're not weak anymore. Full strength buddy? So it's clear for the readers? Natch." Thanos exhibited no signs of weakness. Signs, which were plainly evident beforehand. Let's use common sense. He recovered.

The only ones obsessing over prior, irrelevant statements of weakness are people who want to make excuses. And even granting your excuse, fine, Thanos could have recovered enough such that he only gets half his body disintegrated.


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When he came back from being destroyed Cosmo said he was harder to read because of his power he had regained iirc or words to such effect but it never said he had fully regained his power as like i said DnA was obsessed with telling power lv, blast power etc that they would have said full power or words to that degree as they did about his early power lvl.



Betty as a red Hulk drew Banner's power, so what you really saw was 10 percent or less Betty 90 or more percent Hulk. The Wishing Well just allowed Betty to keep pace so that she did not overheat by being over saturated by the Hulk's increasing power yield. The Wishing Well did not change the way her powers work, it merely augmented them.


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Nope I'm stating that on panel the Hulk was seen as becoming durable enough that Wendigo's claws bounced off of him, as did Bi-Beast, and Arm'Cheddon's attacks, they didn't even register. Did you see that book? Did you also not realize that the Hulk increased his strength from that point exponentially? So if my logic is correct, that would also mean that his durability grew as well. Is my logic still flawed? Explain if you think it is.
I'm not saying Hulk hasn't become more durable. The only way you think that is if you read at a first grade level.

I'm saying that WWH resisting Wolverine's claws better doesn't prove he's more durable than Thanos with the IG, especially when his durability was trash in that arc. Upscaled or not, you're going to need another example. And I don't think tanking Wend and others is enough to prove that.

Mind you that's not applicable to normal Thanos, but with your "I'm not saying anything, but I keep bringing up examples from IG" it's pretty applicable to you.


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Big deal he cut him, so what..Logan has cut open WWH(carving open his back)King Thor and pre retcon Molecule Man

Did you not see how Thanos was using different ways on dealing with the heroes showing the versatility of the depowered IG, Hell Thanos with the depowered IG shattered Caps shield with 1 punch, dont tell me you think that Hulk could stand up to that.



The Red Hulk stood up to an PG user, and although he was busted up, it didn't kill him. So to answer yes I do believe that he could take a few hits from it, if it were solely the PG powering the hit and not mixed with reality warping.


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Big deal he cut him, so what..Logan has cut open WWH(carving open his back)King Thor and pre retcon Molecule Man

Did you not see how Thanos was using different ways on dealing with the heroes showing the versatility of the depowered IG, Hell Thanos with the depowered IG shattered Caps shield with 1 punch, dont tell me you think that Hulk could stand up to that.


I agree with Wolvy claws.

As for your second comment. Hulk has ripped adamantium with one hand and crushed Uru. Do you think Thanos can stand up to that?


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The Red Hulk stood up to an PG user, and although he was busted up, it didn't kill him. So to answer yes I do believe that he could take a few hits from it, if it were solely the PG powering the hit and not mixed with reality warping.


That PG user, the Hood, was also cited as being the least experienced and effective IG wielder of them all.

Thanos with just the PG >>> Hood with just the PG.


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I agree with Wolvy claws.

As for your second comment. Hulk has ripped adamantium with one hand and crushed Uru. Do you think Thanos can stand up to that?
Thor carved a hammer out of Uru. It's not special without an enchantment

When did he rip adamantium with one hand?


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^ Nul crumbled his enchanted uru Worthy hammer.

Nul ripped an adamantium net with one hand in Hulk vs Dracula #3.


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I'm not saying Hulk hasn't become more durable. The only way you think that is if you read at a first grade level.

I'm saying that WWH resisting Wolverine's claws better doesn't prove he's more durable than Thanos with the IG, especially when his durability was trash in that arc. Upscaled or not, you're going to need another example. And I don't think tanking Wend and others is enough to prove that.

Mind you that's not applicable to normal Thanos, but with your "I'm not saying anything, but I keep bringing up examples from IG" it's pretty applicable to you.



All I'm getting at is that on a normal day Thanos has better durability (this is not a concession just the truth), but the Hulk can surpass his non IG durability, and his non IG strength level, by several orders of magnitude. Agree or not, that was my entire point. I never once claimed anything that did not happen in a book that i have read, but as the bible says lean not to your own understanding. In other words if my logic is flawed, or my perception off, I am more than willing to learn, if you have something to teach.


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[B]I know it was the explosion from Betty and Hulk that killed then which was much more than just planetary.

Post the scan...half of the planet was left during the Drax and Thanos fight. Betty and Hulk punched at each other without touching a thing and caused a dwstruction that Thanos only dreams about.
Go to the repsct thread seeing as youre so cock sure of half the planet remaining as you said.

Drax and Thanos didnt even have to HIT each other the only tested strength no force was needed.

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Are we using the "sharing fts argument"? Ok...let's do this. WWH walked through Red Hulk...the same Red Hulk that killed Surfer
By draining a noob Surfer who had the PC like 2 mins, so no big deal,
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killed two skyfathers
What 2 skyfathers lol the Elder has no feats to put him a skyfather especially as you like to use physical feats,
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walked through Odin force Thor
By draining part of the OF then got stomped second to time round by a weakerTHOR.

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Withstood a attack from pissed Galactus
It wasnt a attack all Galactus did was take back the PC from Rulk

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There, I liked doing that. Using ABC logic, I still win buddy.
If youre gonna use ABC logic at least use it correctly.


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Thor carved a hammer out of Uru. It's not special without an enchantment

When did he rip adamantium with one hand?


The hammer was enchanted. The same type of hammer Thor walk around with.

As for your other statement, he did it during his fight against the vampire nation.


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^ Nul crumbled his enchanted uru Worthy hammer.

Nul ripped an adamantium net with one hand in Hulk vs Dracula #3.
Ah, powered up Hulk...

Puts him on Morlun levels


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