The ig can be everywhere and nowhere at the same time. The ca can't affect the ig from inside dc's multiverse anyways. This is common sense type stuff here.
Everywhere and nowhere? Funny since we've only seen the IG user inside of his/her own universe. Mandrakk was by all accounts the most powerful villain in the history of DC comics and the Armor adapted to everything he could throw at it.
First, universes was referenced once. And not even in Infinity Gauntlet[/i, but in [i]Infinity Quest. And no, I disagree with your account of the Abraxas storyline. In fact, the idea of alternate universes, the multiverse and even the omniverse was stated, and more importantly, depicted far more than the single term universe. It's evident simply from the fact that alternate Galactuses were shown, alternate Reeds were shown, Multi-Eternity was mentioned and shown, and the omniversal guardian Roma was involved. Multi-Eternity was referenced and depicted and explained. One Eternity per universe. A Multi-Eternity for the multiverse. Equating 616-Eternity to Multi-Eternity is a facile attempt to imbue something with greater significance through wordplay and destroys the entire concept of a single 616-universe and a single 616-Eternity. Further explained below:
Thanos never wanted to destroy the 616-Universe, he just wanted to replace his importance with 616-Eternity's. In Infinity Watch #1, that's the specific reason LT gave to Eternity as to why he did not interfere with Thanos in the first place, whereas he interfered with Warlock who would eventually destroy it because he was unstable. So there was never any danger of the entire Multiverse crumbling. Thanos took over the 616-Universe, just as other alternate Thanoses took over their respective universes (or Doom, Silver Surfer, Reed, etc.). Using your logic, if 616-Thanos took over Multi-Eternity, that would have negated these alternate What If? Infinity Gauntlet stories from ever happening. Characters in those alternate universes would have been like, "Now I am the ruler of this universe! And now I- oh crap... 616 Thanos took over 616 Eternity, who for some reason is Multi-Eternity, so really... I am not ruler of this universe. D'oh." That didn't happen. If it did happen, you'd have a point. Dimensions/realities/pocket universes have been called universes before. Microverse and Mojoverse even have the suffix "-verse" in their names. Those terms have been mixed up before plenty of times. What's not been mixed up, is whether Mephisto's realm is called Mephisto's realms. Or the Negative Zone is called the Negative Zones. It's not a double-standard because I'm arguing distinction in plurality (while pointing out dimensions/realms/pocket universes have been called universes) and you're wholly eviscerating plurality (while ignoring that dimensions/realms/pocket universes have been called universes). Having an actor use an artifact without there being plot device or outside help does not diminish the feat. But as I recall, Thanos and In-Betweener specifically assisted Warlock in some way (like sent him to a special place where he could destroy that reality). Absent those circumstances, I don't think Warlock could have destroyed that reality. I haven't read it in a while, I don't have scans with me. But that's my point.
As explained above, the concepts of multiverse and omniverse were far more prevalent in the Abraxas storyline than a few throw-away "universe" lines. Ignoring that fact is absurd.
IG is not a multiversal artifact. Neither is Odin a multiversal being. Arguing that Odin can cause reverberations across the multiverse must now mean that the IG is multiversal is simply retarded and a poor attempt at straw-manning.
The point is it stood up to it and saw Superman through the battle.
I don't think a neutral battlefield is possible. The Cosmic Armor is on a different scope. Even so he could be at as many points as he wants, the CA will just become omnipresent as well, its within its ability to adapt to fight on that level.
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They specifically said universe. You said they specifically said so in the ig so why accept one and not the other?
No, Odin is a multiversal being as he has affected the mulitverse under his power alone. To suggest he has a snowballs chance in hell against the ig despite your double standards is growing tiresome. Those are the rules of kmc.
Now if you would. What did the Ca actually adapt to?
They also said multiverse, Eternities, Multi-Eternity, alternate universes and omniverse. And you saw the multiverse, Eternities, Multi-Eternity, alternate universes and omniverse. Don't pretend that conflating all these terms of plurality into the singular is fair or logical. Especially when we see dozens of alternate Reeds dying or the omniversal guardian, Roma showing up.
Odin is not a multiversal being. And I never said he had a chance against the IG. Don't put words into my mouth. Don't straw-man me. You're not clever enough. You're growing a tendency to do that when you're cornered and can't properly rebut logic. Don't do it. It's a form of trolling.
I know they stated universe so please let me know when.
Abraxas was off exterminating Galacti in other universes but the 616 was described as the most powerful if memory serves me correctly.
If you want to ignore his power affecting the multiverse, but then again you only pay attention to the word multiverse when it suits your own arguments and brush it off when it doesn't.
It's stated clearly on the page and to deny it is a form of trolling.
^ It's illogical to use reductionism on the Abraxas storyline and ignore the distinction between a single universe (like 616-Universe) and the Marvel Multiverse. it's untenable and irresponsible as matter of plain English comprehension to destroy the distinction between the 616-Universe and the Marvel Multiverse, when we see multiple Eternities floating about, when we're introduced to the idea of Multi-Eternity, when we see 616-Reed faced with the deaths of countless alternate Reeds, when the omniversal guardian, Roma shows up, where Abraxas is jaunting around from alternate universe to alternate universe. Why are you pursuing such a path? Because you're desperate to reverse-project wordplay onto a wholly different storyline that clearly dealt with a single universe. 616 is the most important, don't recall anywhere saying it's the most powerful.
Odin causing reverberations into the multiverse does not make him a multiversal being. You don't believe that. I don't believe that. So stop saying it like it means something. That behavior is trolling.
When the un was used what word was given, was it universe or multiverse? What was specifically stated to have been remade?
He is powerful enough to affect the mulitverse but you claim the ig isn't? So if this is an example of Odin not being able to defeat a plot item that can't affect the multi then your whole premise is illogical.
^ I believe the exact phrase was "everything that was." Considering that all the damage Abraxas did was undone, by him being nullified, it's pretty clear this extends to the entire multiverse, where Abraxas was doing his damage.
No. Your premise has always been illogical. So stop using it. I couldn't care less to argue whether or not the IG can send shockwaves into the multiverse. You don't have to be a multiversal being to do that. You don't even have to be a universal being to do that. So it's completely pointless to act like you've struck onto some revelation. Your premise is illogical. You know it. I know it. Get off this utterly desperate ploy and stop trolling.
For the last time Odin isn't a multiversal threat. IIRC during Infinite Crisis New Earth Superman and Earth 2 Superman's punches were reverbrating through the new Multiverse and in an instant they both achieved visions of how the other's universe was like. Does that mean they're multiversal? No.
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