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the ninjak
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Thanks SamZED!

Man I reverse everything I said about DD even having a chance at H2H.
DP's powerset is as insane as his mind!
I always thought the Cyclops situation was definitely TPing
And the pirate stuff just wacky Looney Toons level writing.
But man this boy is fast.
He must have heard that sniper bullet blast inside the rifle and just used the position of the blast to just jump up above the assassins and kick their asses .....most impresive.
Thanks for the education.


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Originally posted by snoopdogg
Didn't DD lift a car once? I hear that thrown around alot.
DD respect thread. i thin he did it twice and if that isnt enough in one of them kingpin was in it.. wink


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Originally posted by the ninjak
Thanks SamZED!

Man I reverse everything I said about DD even having a chance at H2H.
DP's powerset is as insane as his mind!
I always thought the Cyclops situation was definitely TPing
And the pirate stuff just wacky Looney Toons level writing.
But man this boy is fast.
He must have heard that sniper bullet blast inside the rifle and just used the position of the blast to just jump up above the assassins and kick their asses .....most impresive.
Thanks for the education.
NP smile Glad you liked the scans. If you're interested just check the respect thread, its on the first page of the respect forum.wink


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Originally posted by SamZED
Yeah about as one sided as Cap America beating the crap outta Punisher during CW who wasn't fighting back. It wasn't a fight, not even close, Sable attacked DP tossed him and ran away. Big deal. Doesn't help your argument tbh and says nothing about their fighting skills. Sable couldn't do jack to an unarmed DP even with DD's help. Yet you're making it sound like that instance proves she's a better fighter.erm


Funny how you bring up Cap pummeling Pun when Punisher did nothing to Cap at all. You post a scan of DP chopping off 3 guys hands when they had their guns drawn AT HIM, yet when the same thing happens to him(minus the hand chopping), you make excuses. He drew his guns at an unarmed Sable, and she quickly disarmed him and then 2 shot him out the car. Now, that doesnt say paragraphs about her fighting skill, but it does show a degree of speed and skill considering she was unarmed and had guns drawn in her face by someone of DP's caliber. erm

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My statement about DP tossing them around came from the fact that he treated DD like a ragdoll at that point. And "blinded" or "turned around" doesnt help your argument either. The fact remains DD only manages to fight DP who's either blinded or doesn't see him coming. And Sable didn't "play" him, she knew that's the only way he'll stop coming after them, probably knew that he'd eventually murder them both judging by the fight.


Ahh, so kicking someone is treating them like a ragdoll. Got it. Deadpool makes more wisecracks in a fight more than anyone in Marvel. Fact is, that from DD's initial hit on DP, he was involved, and DP knew it. Because hes not thinking of his other opponent, is his fault. He was too focused on Sable. You mention that the only time Dd manages to fight DP is when hes blinded or doesnt see him coming, yet, before that, DP took a swipe at DD with his sword. Also, i didnt say Sasble "played" DP, i said she "PAYED" DP. He wasnt after THEM. He was only after HER.

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Originally posted by SamZED
A doll that is speciafically designed to fool DD's radar sense into thinking that it's a child.. You think Deadpool has these hidden in his belt all the time? And exactly, the fall from the roof (notice conviniently into the pool) was just Deadpool leading DD to the place he wanted to, heck he was even shooting for the show. Notice he didn't really want to hit him with bullets or he would've pulled the trigger later. Don't know what part of the "fight" you're so proud of. DD kicking Deadpool while he was getting out of the pool? Says a lot about his fighting skills.erm And Deadpool getting "accidently" tripped so he could drop the fake doll into the dumpster causing DD to land there so DP could end the fight without hurting him or having to throw a punch?


Funny how DP is the only contestant in all of contest of champions who has prep, lol.erm There was none. He had time to set up the doll and recorder when D kicked him in the cabana. First of all, he wasnt aware DD's radar, and the contestants dont know who they are going to fight until fight time. Do you know what DP always carries? He can carry whatever at any given time. Same with Bats. You mention DP didnt want to hit DD with bullets while he was falling off the roof, yet, while in the dumpster, DP pulled the gun on him. If DP never intended to ever shoot DD, then why did the fight end there? Its called PIS.

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Originally posted by SamZED
As of now we have 3 enounter:
1) DD while being distracted by Black Mary gets oneshotted by Deadpool.


You may need to check the annual again. Youve been talking about DD only hitting DP when DP didnt see him coming(tussle with SS), yet you mention DP "one-shotting" DD. First off, DD didnt suspect DP to come from behind and hit him. Secondly, DD wasnt one shotted. He was getting up, and tried to leap at Mary. Then she elbows him to the back of the neck.

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Originally posted by SamZED
So the REAL question here is - where did you get 6/10 for DD? And what makes you think DD is a better fighter and is faster? DD doesn't have feats to suggest that he's faster or a better fighter and going by the fight DP can hold his own against DD and SS at the same time without much trouble (and it can be argued that was even beating them both until the bomb incident), He's as fast or faster than DD, got equel MA skills and slight strength advantage, plus HF. 8/10 is actually being generous. I'll have to ask you to back up your claims about DD being faster and a better fighter with feats.

That and the fact that DP holds a lot of advantges over DD while DD holds 0.What are your reasons? A staged fight that DD lost and a poor showing in another fight?


The reasons i state why DD may be faster and a better fighter is by whats shown. Looking at feats in both respect threads, DD has the more impressive combat, speed and agility feats. Especially considering the only weapons he uses are clubs and a occasional weapon he may pick up. Spiderman has commented on how fast DD was and how hard he is to hit as well as others such as Thor, Wolvie etc. Like ive stated before, strength is a non factor here, but DD is no weakling himself. Over the years, DD skills and agility has been more to the forefront that DP's and looking at all threads and feats posted, DD's are more impressive. I will say that DP has fought more meta's and done better. Its been a overall consensus(on this forum) that DD is more skilled, but you say otherwise without showing anything to back it. The proof isnt on me, its on you.

Ive stated my reasons why id think DD would win. Bondage being the most likely. DP's weapons are nulled save for an explosive if he getsd it off to a point where it will incapacitate DD for the win.


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Originally posted by jrodslam
Funny how you bring up Cap pummeling Pun when Punisher did nothing to Cap at all. You post a scan of DP chopping off 3 guys hands when they had their guns drawn AT HIM, yet when the same thing happens to him(minus the hand chopping), you make excuses. He drew his guns at an unarmed Sable, and she quickly disarmed him and then 2 shot him out the car. Now, that doesnt say paragraphs about her fighting skill, but it does show a degree of speed and skill considering she was unarmed and had guns drawn in her face by someone of DP's caliber. erm
Again, he wasn't even pointing his gun, he was sitting in the car making jokes about taxi unions, when she punched him and tossed him outta the car. Says nothing about his fighting skills as it wasn't a fight. What are you implying anyway? That SS is a better fighter than DP? Seriosuly? Again, she couldn't do jack to him with the help from Daredevil. ALthough she did much better than Matt tbh. And don't compare the speed feat of Deadpool cutting three hands so fast the guys didn't even SEE him move to Sable tossing Deadpool outa the car as if it proves she's faster, Sable couldn't hit him with a machinegun at pointblank range while he wasn't even looking.


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Ahh, so kicking someone is treating them like a ragdoll. Got it. Deadpool makes more wisecracks in a fight more than anyone in Marvel. Fact is, that from DD's initial hit on DP, he was involved, and DP knew it. Because hes not thinking of his other opponent, is his fault. He was too focused on Sable. You mention that the only time Dd manages to fight DP is when hes blinded or doesnt see him coming, yet, before that, DP took a swipe at DD with his sword. Also, i didnt say Sasble "played" DP, i said she "PAYED" DP. He wasnt after THEM. He was only after HER.
Oh ok my bad, read the word wrong. But Deadpooling taking a swipe at DD with his sword WHILE dodging bullets from Sable proves what? Fact is DD only managed to hit him in the dark when DP (according to DD himself) couldn't see him coming, now DP being able to do that to DD in the dark says a lot about their level of fighting skills. And what hit are you talking about? The one first kick? Deadpool even said "where did he come from?" He didn't know Daredevil was there, it was a sneak attack.

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Funny how DP is the only contestant in all of contest of champions who has prep, lol.erm There was none. He had time to set up the doll and recorder when D kicked him in the cabana. First of all, he wasnt aware DD's radar, and the contestants dont know who they are going to fight until fight time. Do you know what DP always carries? He can carry whatever at any given time. Same with Bats. You mention DP didnt want to hit DD with bullets while he was falling off the roof, yet, while in the dumpster, DP pulled the gun on him. If DP never intended to ever shoot DD, then why did the fight end there? Its called PIS.
You should read the fight again. He pulled the gun on DD meaning if he wanted to he could've ended the fight since because of Deadpool's trap DD was helpless. That's why he won. Wheather he wanted to pull the trigger or not wasn't important for the TOURNAMENT. The fight was over. On the other hand we can say for a fact that DP didn't want to shoot Matt or he would've pulled the trigger. As for DP's equipment, he's had a lot of crazy stuff in his career, even a sheep-laser canon, but he never carries this stuff around with him all the time. And yes, i know for sure he doesn't carry fake anti-Daredevil dolls. Batman maybe, but he's no Batman. Face it the fight was staged, have you even seen Deadpool throw a punch? He was running away most of the time and shooting like its the first time he was holding a gun, the point was to lead DD into a trap.

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You may need to check the annual again. Youve been talking about DD only hitting DP when DP didnt see him coming(tussle with SS), yet you mention DP "one-shotting" DD. First off, DD didnt suspect DP to come from behind and hit him. Secondly, DD wasnt one shotted. He was getting up, and tried to leap at Mary. Then she elbows him to the back of the neck.
My point exactly thank you. DD didn't see him coming and almost got knocked out. Yet when DD jumps at Deadpool with a sneak attack (that didn't do squat anyway) when DP DOESN'T see him coming you say it was a fight that demonstrates DD's superior fighting skills?erm

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The reasons i state why DD may be faster and a better fighter is by whats shown. Looking at feats in both respect threads, DD has the more impressive combat, speed and agility feats. Especially considering the only weapons he uses are clubs and a occasional weapon he may pick up. Spiderman has commented on how fast DD was and how hard he is to hit as well as others such as Thor, Wolvie etc. Like ive stated before, strength is a non factor here, but DD is no weakling himself. Over the years, DD skills and agility has been more to the forefront that DP's and looking at all threads and feats posted, DD's are more impressive. I will say that DP has fought more meta's and done better. Its been a overall consensus(on this forum) that DD is more skilled, but you say otherwise without showing anything to back it. The proof isnt on me, its on you.
Saying that DD has better combat speed or agility feats it's simpy not true. Wolverine's commented on his speed? That's not an argument. Tasksmaster has commented on Deadpool's speed (the guy who can duplicate DD's own speed), so did Cable several times. another time when he fought Avengers and was dancing around them all with ease etc etc You saying that it's forum consensus is just speculation, 90% of memebers seem to disagree with you, so yes its up to you to post proofs, not me. But the thing is - you can't possibly post anything that'd suggest that DD is faster or more agile. It seems to me you're just to used to thinking that and so refuse to accept anyone else's point of view and arguments. You keep saying that strength is a non-factor, and it's only 50% true. Strength here wont be a factor for D because it's a BIG question if DD has what it takes to put DP down at all. On the other hand DP can either shoot, blow him up, cut ot simply beat DD with his bare fists. In other words has lots of options and lots of advantages. While DD has nothing. I can say that Spider-man will punch Hulk for the ko and call it my reason, but that won't make it true as Spider-man doesn't have what it takes to do that. Same with you saying that DD will tie him up for the win or beat him because he's better which he isn't. Ofcourse I exaggerated with the Hulk example but you know what I meant.


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Have these two ever fought?


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Have these two ever fought?


Probably and no one has probably read it..


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Have these two ever fought?
At least 3 times.


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Have these two ever fought?


Yes...without a winner.


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Deadpool without a doubt.

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Yes...without a winner.

I seem to remember Daredevil embarrassing Deadpool pretty hard in a recent encounter. I think it was like issue 14 of Deadpool's current series. I could be wrong, as I can't get to my comics right now.

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I seem to remember Daredevil embarrassing Deadpool pretty hard in a recent encounter. I think it was like issue 14 of Deadpool's current series. I could be wrong, as I can't get to my comics right now.
You are wrong.


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You are wrong.

Admittedly, I haven't read it since it came out, but I seem to remember Daredevil tying Wade up fairly easily and Wade shooting a guy so Daredevil would leave him alone. Is that not what happened?

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It did. DP wasn't looking for a fight though, he was in a middle of a chase when he accidentally pissed off DD thinking its a shapeshifter. He instantly realized his mistake but it was too late, Matt was all over him. Apparently DD beat Wade up off-pannel in the recent DP anniversary but DP didn't fight back. Out of all their encounters they've had like 1 serious fight where both were really trying. No conclusive winner.


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Ahh okay. So the only times that Daredevil has won has been against a Deadpool that wasn't even trying? And going by the earlier pages of this thread, he hasn't done so hot against Deadpool when he actually fights back.

I'd back Deadpool for a decent majority, then.

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