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Desaad
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Morg without the WOL defeated Surfer.....

When they first met, yes.

In their second confrontation, the Surfer defeated Morg definitively. A planet was destroyed in the process.

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With them he would kill 5 Surfers. And Surfer declined Galactus' request to power him up, he only got a better mindset after big G's upgrade.

No, he got both. It's said right there in the narration, and the editor (Andy Schmidt) confirmed it at the time.

Feb 23rd, 2010 12:34 AM

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When they first met, yes.

In their second confrontation, the Surfer defeated Morg definitively. A planet was destroyed in the process.

Still Morg didn't have the WOL.

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No, he got both. It's said right there in the narration, and the editor (Andy Schmidt) confirmed it at the time.

Im gonna take your word for it.

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No one is arguing that Morg w/ WoL wouldn't win this. Just that, with everyone as heralds only, it looks like Surfer would win.

Feb 23rd, 2010 01:01 AM

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Surfer or Fallen One

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Morg kills every other herald.

Feb 23rd, 2010 01:25 AM

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Morg kills every other herald.

Nah...

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He nearly did it once, The only herald that wasn't there but would have mattered was the Fallen One. The rest of the heralds minus Surfer and FO aren't shit to him and he already has defeated SS.

Feb 23rd, 2010 01:32 AM

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Or Morg gets killed by the A-Wave again, and Surfer decimates way more people than I'm guessing killed Morg...

If we want to go down that road.

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He nearly did it once, The only herald that wasn't there but would have mattered was the Fallen One. The rest of the heralds minus Surfer and FO aren't shit to him and he already has defeated SS.

Surfer's also beaten Morg...

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Surfer's also beaten Morg...

SS lost the first time to Morg(without the WOL), but the second time he managed to barely defeat him, though Morg still didn't have the WOL.

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Or Morg gets killed by the A-Wave again, and Surfer decimates way more people than I'm guessing killed Morg...

If we want to go down that road.

Morg has walked through SS and a couple of other heralds with ease. Direct fight>Indirect comparison.

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SS lost the first time to Morg(without the WOL), but the second time he managed to barely defeat him, though Morg still didn't have the WOL.

Yeah he lost before he knew the extent of Morg's power, and then won after he did(and their second fight was pretty decisively won by Norrin).

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Morg has walked through SS and a couple of other heralds with ease. Direct fight>Indirect comparison.

Only with the WOL, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have that for the purposes of this thread.

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Still Morg didn't have the WOL. Morg was as high as a high herald could get, even higher than Genis and WM Thor based on feats.

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Still Morg didn't have the WOL. Morg was as high as a high herald could get, even higher than Genis and WM Thor based on feats.

What makes you think he has the WOL for the purposes of this thread?

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Only with the WOL, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have that for the purposes of this thread.

Without the WOL? then it would be between Fallen One or Surfer. I automaticaly assumed that Morg would be at his peak in this fight.

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Without the WOL? then it would be between Fallen One or Surfer. I automaticaly assumed that Morg would be at his peak in this fight.

Peak doesn't mean "powered up". Otherwise we'd have to use something like Unilord Surfer or Surfer w/Loki's power.

And Surfer's feats pretty much blow Fallen One's out of the water...

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I don't know where all this Fallen One respect comes from. His biggest feat was the destruction of the gas giant planet, and then getting owned by Thanos even easier than the Surfer has.

Feb 23rd, 2010 01:42 AM

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Peak doesn't mean "powered up".

Alright.

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And Surfer's feats pretty much blow Fallen One's out of the water...

The FO though had only one appearence(unless he has had a recent appearence that im not ware of), but Galactus spoke highly of him, and he did give Thanos a better fight than Surfer ever did IMO.

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I don't know where all this Fallen One respect comes from. His biggest feat was the destruction of the gas giant planet, and then getting owned by Thanos even easier than the Surfer has.

Well he WAS absorbing the life energies of entire planets in his attempts to starve Galactus, but yeah other than that and the stuff you listed we don't really have any info on the extent of his abilities.

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