Are you saying that SS and SM are lying to us? Don't they have accute enough senses to know how long it takes for a nanosecond to pass? Specially the SS should know something like this. Even if it's just a rough estimative on their part, isn't it reasonable to assume a human can know whether his actions take under 5 seconds or even one second? cant a human calculate actions and performing taking very few seconds, knowing it will take them very few seconds to do it? why not them?
Hulk - not a speedster and not in this class.
Sentry - maybe 80/90 maybe more. Haven't seen enough speed feats to be able to compare to DC speedster levels.
Silver Surfer - combat speed - not sure. Maybe 80, maybe more.
Thor - not a speedster and not in this class, despite some good showings.
Wonder Woman - 90-95. Her skill makes up for some of that gap, but even a stupid, angry, clumsy, mentally controlled Supes was able to get past her defensive skills and land some punches, which I think says a lot about his sheer speed given that he was up against a much more skilled and disciplined fighter.
Flash (Wally) - 150% or more when he goes all out.
Martian Manhunter - somewhere in 90 - 100.
Thanos - not a speedster and not in this class. He said he couldn't hit Gamora, and Gamora is a quick fighter but nothing like Supe's speed.
Black Adam - hard to say, but often the Marvels are shown as equals.
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) - not sure, maybe he can amp but he's not a speedster.
They aren't lying, the writers aren't always aware what the stuff they write means. They want to entertain us, give us that wow-feeling, they don't give a shit about physics.
Saves the entire population from a nuclear explosion by carrying 1-2 people (out of a total of 532,000) in 0.0001 microseconds (he needs the Speed of Light for this? )
Yes writers are often scientifically illiterate, specially mavel writers atempting to grasp concepts of biology and evolution.
But this creates a problem, how can we ever debate feats that have measures like mass and time in them if we don't assume them to be valid? I usually think they are somewhat more objective than fights between characters, because here isn't the need for the villain to loose or to preserve the image of the characters without them being completely humiliated by someone much more powerfull.
That first picosecond showing was hilarious. by the time he said 'a picoscond ago' in a speed the dude could hear a trillion of them would have passed. th second one looks good though
Yes but with feats like this one would always get stomped by an speedster, evacuating 532000 people (1-2 at a time) in 0,0001 seconds, to a place far away from the explosion, how many punches would this make in 0,0001 seconds. I guess you have to take both into account, the high end feats and what a char is capable of (in theory) and how he fares in real battles. Else you will end up doing more math then debating and in the end you will end like those poor Dragonball Z suckers.
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