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Kirikaze Fuuma
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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Precrisis is noncanon, it's been retconned for it's stupidity.


Pre Crisis took place during DC Comic's publishing history prior to 1986. But the scan from that video was taken from Superman annual #3 (1991).


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Batman is better at deductive reasoning and psychology
Look up the word "almost" for me Endless Mike, if you would?


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Because he stated it?


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I still don't see any proof. no expression


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Proof=Buu Saga


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I still don't see any proof. no expression


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Then that's your problem, because I gave you your proof. Watch the Majin Buu Saga. In fact, watch Kid Buu as well. There are plenty of moments showing increased speed. Punches Goku couldn't dodge prior were immediately simple.


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Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Elaborate.


Superman is stronger, faster, more powerful (which is an understatement), and has a better set of morals.
Batman is more willing to break the law when necessary, meaner, smarter, lacks weaknesses Clark has, and more prepared for anything to the point in which he can be considered unbeatable (see Tower of Babel).

They both have superior qualities than the other, which can trade off during situations.
Batman can't defeat Darkseid, and Superman can't solve a case quick enough to save lives. Both have been proven.


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Originally posted by Mr. Rhythmic
Superman is stronger, faster, more powerful (which is an understatement), and has a better set of morals.
Batman is more willing to break the law when necessary, meaner, smarter, lacks weaknesses Clark has, and more prepared for anything to the point in which he can be considered unbeatable (see Tower of Babel).

They both have superior qualities than the other, which can trade off during situations.
Batman can't defeat Darkseid, and Superman can't solve a case quick enough to save lives. Both have been proven.


Smarter is debatable.

Being meaner doesn't really mean anything, not necessarily good or bad but I can guarantee you that people would be more wary of pissing off Superman than Batman.

Yeah Bruce has weaknesses that Superman doesn't have like human durability, human speed, the need to eat, sleep and breathe.

Breaking the law is also not necessary for Superman to get the job done.


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As you can clearly see, getting the canon out of comics/manga in comparison to the anime/cartoon is about as retarded as Zelda continuity.

Also, Goku has higher morality than Bats or Supes.


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No he doesn't.


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Then that's your problem, because I gave you your proof.



No you didn't. You didn't give me anything except repeating yourself.

I see no scans with him saying that.


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Originally posted by LLLLLink
As you can clearly see, getting the canon out of comics/manga in comparison to the anime/cartoon is about as retarded as Zelda continuity.

Also, Goku has higher morality than Bats or Supes.


Err... let's not make a debate about Goku vs Superman here. OK? ^^;;


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Smarter is debatable.

Being meaner doesn't really mean anything, not necessarily good or bad but I can guarantee you that people would be more wary of pissing off Superman than Batman.

Yeah Bruce has weaknesses that Superman doesn't have like human durability, human speed, the need to eat, sleep and breathe.

Breaking the law is also not necessary for Superman to get the job done.



Superman needs to breathe, too, I thought. (Tries to remember a comic, PC.)


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Also, Goku has higher morality than Bats or Supes.


No he doesn't...


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No he doesn't...


Proof please. Has Superman ever been mind controlled for evil or something like that? At the very least, Goku has the Flying Nimbus as proof of pure-heartedness.


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Proof please. Has Superman ever been mind controlled for evil or something like that? At the very least, Goku has the Flying Nimbus as proof of pure-heartedness.
You act like Clark couldn't ride on Nimbus. Or that Gokou wouldn't be able to be controlled by Poison Ivy's powers. Or be mind controlled. They are pretty much equal when it comes to this. Which is kind of strange for Gokou since he also has the saiyan lust for fighting.


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Proof please. Has Superman ever been mind controlled for evil or something like that? At the very least, Goku has the Flying Nimbus as proof of pure-heartedness.

Yet he gave a senzu bean to Cell. Batman and Supes would never do that if they were in his shoes.


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Proof please. Has Superman ever been mind controlled for evil or something like that? At the very least, Goku has the Flying Nimbus as proof of pure-heartedness.


Being mind controlled has nothing to do with morals. Look at what Superman does day in and day out he is absolutely pure of heart. His no kill policy, the fact that he has died for Earth, the fact that he would do anything to protect one life. Yes he has been mind controlled but that doesn't mean anything against his heart.


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Being mind controlled has nothing to do with morals. Look at what Superman does day in and day out he is absolutely pure of heart. His no kill policy, the fact that he has died for Earth, the fact that he would do anything to protect one life. Yes he has been mind controlled but that doesn't mean anything against his heart.


If Supes had the darkness in his heart pulled out by Babidi's magic, would he turn? Goku wasn't even a candidate for it.


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If Supes had the darkness in his heart pulled out by Babidi's magic, would he turn? Goku wasn't even a candidate for it.


There is no Darkness in Superman's heart.


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There is no Darkness in Superman's heart.


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