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Warlord
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Neither Hulk or Gladiator are as strong as Kara.



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Kara is in the same ballpark strength-wise as Superman who has moved planets.

Give me a strength feat from Hulk or Gladiator that compares.


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no please give me a post feat from KARA that campares to an angry Hulk and Gladiator.

Saying she's kryptonian is very different than saying she's superman level in strength.

As for feats, Gladiator has shatered planets with his punches while Hulk has punched through dimensions something I haven't seen Karra done

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Kara is in the same ballpark strength-wise as Superman who has moved planets.

Give me a strength feat from Hulk or Gladiator that compares.


Do you seriously read Marvel comics at all???

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Do you seriously read Marvel comics at all???
be nice to him.. miffed

anyways the ear whisper he did on gladiator would f^@$ kara up due to her hearing


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Do you seriously read Marvel comics at all???


Instead of insulting me and turning the attention away from the actual debate how about you do as I asked and provide some feats that would put him in the similar range I have described ....K...Thanx smile



@ Wild Shadow...Kara is fine inside the sun which is the loudest place in the Solar System, I don't think it should be too much trouble.


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dude you have described Superman's range...not Kara's.
Again Kyptonian =/= Superman.

Also I've given you some examples above while I've yet to see anything similar from Supergirl

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dude you have described Superman's range...not Kara's.
Again Kyptonian =/= Superman.

Also I've given you some examples above while I've yet to see anything similar from Supergirl


Supergirl is on a similar level of strength with Superman, Wonder Woman, Martial Manhunter, etc. It has been both stated and demonstrated in the comics. Note similar does not mean equal, but in the same range. Some comics even have her power levels above Superman's but I'll disregard those.


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not sure about similar strength feats where a marvel character will move a planet under their own strength and flight power since marvel even as bad as it has gotten tries to abide by certain laws of physics..

marvel characters can and have shattered planets and even hulk as asinine as the planet saving feat was did keep a planet from breaking apart.. then you have drax who plunged into a sun and ripped the core in half.. if that isnt an equivalent and if not vastly more superior to a planet moving feat i dont know what is,.

the mass of a sun even a tea spoon is incredible and that is not factoring the different sizes of suns..
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...=5#post12706583

for instance one million earths can fit into our suns and even the smallest sun is far bigger then our earth it is half the size of our sun.
http://www.universetoday.com/guide-...-smallest-star/

i guess if we really wanted to measure planetary feats kara and supes are actually on the short list of the feat department when we apply real science to their planet moving feat as well as other astronomical events including the micro blackhole feat that supes had. which is the current believe is that they are harmless and almost inconsequential http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_black_hole

the force of thor and herc arm wrestling was enough to slightly knock the earth orbit off its axes and if they continued would have knocked off its axis completely.

also other feats like thor baring the weight of score of planets and gravity is also a more impressive feat then simply budging one planet.

or herc holding the heavens on his shoulders


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Instead of insulting me and turning the attention away from the actual debate how about you do as I asked and provide some feats that would put him in the similar range I have described ....K...Thanx smile



@ Wild Shadow...Kara is fine inside the sun which is the loudest place in the Solar System, I don't think it should be too much trouble.
No, but really, do you read Marvel comics?


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Supergirl is on a similar level of strength with Superman, Wonder Woman, Martial Manhunter, etc. It has been both stated and demonstrated in the comics. Note similar does not mean equal, but in the same range. Some comics even have her power levels above Superman's but I'll disregard those.


good good but from all the above mentioned characters the only one that is superior to strength (and that is slightly superior) to an enraged hulk and gladiator is Superman

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did i do good in my post and references guys? confused embarrasment


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good good but from all the above mentioned characters the only one that is superior to strength (and that is slightly superior) to an enraged hulk and gladiator is Superman


I guess that is where we disagree. Hulk's greatest strength feat is what holding tectonic plates together? Mathematically the amount of force required for that is far less than what is required to move a planet.

Regardless we are getting of topic, and it's not all that relevent because last time I checked Black Bolt's strength wasn't any greater than the 100 ton level. Toe to toe physically she is stronger, more durable, faster, and as far as fighting skills go he isn't that far out of her league.

Note: BB is a 4 in Fighting Skill I believe. Now DC doesn't have a similar scale, but I'd have to believe with all her warrior training and feats, even when depowered she would be a 3...possibly a 4.


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I guess that is where we disagree. Hulk's greatest strength feat is what holding tectonic plates together? Mathematically the amount of force required for that is far less than what is required to move a planet.



still Supergirl has never moved a planet or anything remotely close to this.
And as for hulk's greatest feat for me is punching through dimensions and thunderclap pocket universes (silly as it might sound)

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the whisper reference i made would work just as well on her as it did on gladiator..

gladiator also possess incredible hearing even to the point it is retardedly stupid.. supergirl will fair just as well if not worse then gladiator even if she can tolerate the sun..

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still Supergirl has never moved a planet or anything remotely close to this.
And as for hulk's greatest feat for me is punching through dimensions and thunderclap pocket universes (silly as it might sound)


True but she has gone toe to toe with planet movers. She's been stated to be on their level. She has destroyed a moon.

I tend to disregard the Thunderclap thing because it makes no sense, and I believe Hulk has been retconned since then ??? When was it that Hulk punched through dimensions? Just curious I wasn't aware of this.


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Interestingly enough Gladiator is one of those characters who is shown to be amazing against no-name characters, but struggles with bigger names even if he clearly is out of their league.


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not a big hulk collector here but there was an instance where he punched his way through different dimentions...

A hulk fan could provide issue no.

I know silly things happen in comics... stick out tongue

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not a big hulk collector here but there was an instance where he punched his way through different dimentions...

A hulk fan could provide issue no.

I know silly things happen in comics... stick out tongue


Of course....moving planets itself is a crazy notion lol. The thunderclap thing though was just so whacked out i just couldn't wrap my head around it lol.

I guess I'll just have to agree to disagree with you. I respect your opinions, but i just can't see eye to eye.


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no problems thumb up

I don't consider dimension punching as regular strength levels anyway. I'm just saying that if you seearch for ridiculous feats you'll probably find them.

as for the fight i see BB winning if he uses his voice since I doubt SG could/would one shoot him

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