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Not when you take into consideration harry's mindset I don't see him having much of a chance. I do agree Voldemort rapes though.
Harry's mindset? It's not like he's some n00b.


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And Harry can fire spells faster than Force choke is applied. Watch:

The non verbal spells he and Draco are casting are FAST, dude. Faster than Vader can dodge. One hit to his breathing apparatus and he's done.

Na, son. You're ignoring [again] Force-precog and Jedi/Sith reaction-time, they're way beyond normal people.

Video didn't work. But if it's that "cutting" spell, that won't do shit to Vader either and that's a BIG if. So you just killed Potter again. He tries to cut Vader, Vader laughs and crushes his neck or Force-slams him into a headstone, cracking his head open. Though really, Potter is dead long before that.


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Harry's mindset? It's not like he's some n00b.
He's still a scared young guy compared to someone who just slaughters everyone in his path. Vader would kill harry before he could do much of anything.


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He's still a scared young guy compared to someone who just slaughters everyone in his path. Vader would kill harry before he could do much of anything.
And yet Harry always rises to the occasion and wins. Would you have given him any chance against the basilisk?


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The non verbal spells he and Draco are casting are FAST, dude. Faster than Vader can dodge. One hit to his breathing apparatus and he's done.


You know what's funny?

1. Vader has a lightsaber that he blocks Blaster bolts with.

2. Vader has been shown to block blaster bolts WITH HIS HAND. (how are fire-balls any more dangerous than a blaster bolt?)

3. HARRY AND DRACO ARE DODGING THESE ATTACKS!!! IF THEY CAN DODGE THESE ATTACKS, THEN VADER, WITH THE HELP OF THE FORCE CAN EASILY DODGE THEM.

You just said attacks cannot be dodged while giving a scene where they are being dodged by 2 people. Are you out of your mind? I think your whole argument THERE just fell down around your ears.

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You know what's funny?

1. Vader has a lightsaber that he blocks Blaster bolts with.

2. Vader has been shown to block blaster bolts WITH HIS HAND. (how are fire-balls any more dangerous than a blaster bolt?)

3. HARRY AND DRACO ARE DODGING THESE ATTACKS!!! IF THEY CAN DODGE THESE ATTACKS, THEN VADER, WITH THE HELP OF THE FORCE CAN EASILY DODGE THEM.

You just said attacks cannot be dodged while giving a scene where they are being dodged by 2 people. Are you out of your mind? I think your whole argument THERE just fell down around your ears.


1. He aint gonna block Sectumsempra, man.

2. See above.

3. Vader, in his suit, was SLOW. He lumbered about like a fat woman at a buffet line.


Then there's always this:



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[B]1. He aint gonna block Sectumsempra, man.



You will need to prove that. looked very much like a ranged energy attack, just the kind lightsabers are suited to block.

and For your final retort there: Precog, obviously, unless you are just trying to take the ability completely off the table of Jedi that are known to use it.

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That inflation took a minute and a half, and she still wasn't dead. Vader is going to take a minute and half to kill potter with the force? What a waste of a video clip.

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You will need to prove that. looked very much like a ranged energy attack, just the kind lightsabers are suited to block.

and For your final retort there: Precog, obviously, unless you are just trying to take the ability completely off the table of Jedi that are known to use it.



Did you see what it did to Draco's torso? It shredded it, man, with 3-4 huge gashes. It's obviously a spell that covers a wide area.

Precog could work, but again, Vader moves slow in his suit. If Harry is casting spells left and right, Vader is gonna be too busy evading to form an offensive. First time he stops blocking and goes to attack, he'll be spelled.


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I seem to remember in AOTC that Jedi blocked attacks (that were coming from automatic weapons none the less, potter cannot launch attacks faster than THAT) and advanced on the offensive at the same time.

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I seem to remember in AOTC that Jedi blocked attacks (that were coming from automatic weapons none the less, potter cannot launch attacks faster than THAT) and advanced on the offensive at the same time.
From what I remember, they did advance, like you said, but most of the time they relied on saber attacks in the end, or redirecting blaster fire on the droid/s.


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Did you see what it did to Draco's torso? It shredded it, man, with 3-4 huge gashes. It's obviously a spell that covers a wide area.

Precog could work, but again, Vader moves slow in his suit. If Harry is casting spells left and right, Vader is gonna be too busy evading to form an offensive. First time he stops blocking and goes to attack, he'll be spelled.


Oi, that cutting spell ain't doing shit here, Vader's suit far > linen shirt and boy-flesh.

Lol, dude. The other way around, Vader will be pushing the fight and Potter will be running/hiding. Vader on the defensive here is utter nonsense, he may need to defend once, then his counter leaves Potter dead or just as good as.


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And yet Harry always rises to the occasion and wins. Would you have given him any chance against the basilisk?
Because he is the good guy and has to survive. In a vs. forum he gets beat and beaten badly.


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From what I remember, they did advance, like you said, but most of the time they relied on saber attacks in the end, or redirecting blaster fire on the droid/s.


that's fine, a saber attack would be plenty sufficient for a win, but i have no idea if the fire-balls could actually be deflected or not, so if Harry is busy firing his spells as fast as you say, Vader is likely to just finish him with the blade when he reaches him.

Harry should try a different tactic, the fire-balls aren't going to work,
and the inflating thing is going to fail worse than miserably.

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Oi, that cutting spell ain't doing shit here, Vader's suit far > linen shirt and boy-flesh.








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Lol, dude. The other way around, Vader will be pushing the fight and Potter will be running/hiding. Vader on the defensive here is utter nonsense, he may need to defend once, then his counter leaves Potter death or just as good.
Mhm, and Vader'll be inflated and flying away.



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that's fine, a saber attack would be plenty sufficient for a win, but i have no idea if the fire-balls could actually be deflected or not, so if Harry is busy firing his spells as fast as you say, Vader is likely to just finish him with the blade when he reaches him.

Harry should try a different tactic, the fire-balls aren't going to work,
and the inflating thing is going to fail worse than miserably.
From all the way across the big ass graveyard?

Harry vanishes Vader AND the lightsaber. Evanesco.


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i dont care what everybody thinks Harry Potter is soooooooo much better then Darth Vader!!! 110% better

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reducto. bombarda.


Mhm, and Vader'll be inflated and flying away.




Two good attack spells, but once again you're ignoring precog and Vader's superior reaction-time. Broken neck and/or shattered body means Potter isn't casting. Vader's also has the option to throw his sabre offensively, should be want to for shits and giggles.

See above.


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From what I remember, they did advance, like you said, but most of the time they relied on saber attacks in the end, or redirecting blaster fire on the droid/s.

"most of the time."

That describes Jedi trained from a young age. Vader's fighting style is significantly more aggressive; he uses the Force during his lightsaber duel with Luke in ESB. There is obviously no obstacle for Vader (the person we are discussing) to use the Force offensively within a combat speed timeframe.


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