Vader can just use the Force, pull him through the air, clean across the cemetery, and into his waiting lightsaber. He killed 5 year olds, he holds no qualm about killing Harry.
I am switching from a Potter victory to a Vader victory.
I just don't see how a spell user can fair, at all, against even a padawan. Hell, that boy taking out all of those Clone Troopers looked to have enough battle precog and skills to take out Harry.
(BTW, RJ is in my cool book, but, for now, I shall deem him Nice AC for jocular reasons. He can take a joke, and Alpha Centauri, IMO, needs some rememberence.)
That doesn't even matter, dude. Since when does a master of the force need to see something to react to it? Luke, without even getting any official training, was already reacting to and blocking those blaster bolts from that floating droid, in Episode IV. An invisibility cloak does shit.
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I noticed something earlier in this thread that needs to be addressed:
Battle precog, which takes in very small fractions of a second, is NOT the same thing as far-seeing. It seems those two have been confused in this thread. Battle precognition is what allowed Anakin to fly a Pod-Racer, Jedi's to react and block/bounce blaster bolts, and have saber duels that are simply not possible for anyone without the force or computer assistance (Greivous had computer assistance to keep up with the Jedi.)
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Vader isn't slow in the sense of lifting a hand. Granted, his overall mobility is limited when compared to the likes of Grievous, Maul, or his younger self. But this may be irrelevant as he has shown the ability to both employ Force choke and telikinetically move large objects without moving at all. He has shown the ability to emply Force choke on someone, while possibly on another ship(surely a great distance away), and being able to carry on a conversation with someone else at the same time with his attention on that person he's talking to.
Vader has also displayed the ability to effectively block blaster bolts from Han Solo. Whether this ability was derived from the Force or simply boasts the resistance his glove provides him hasn't fully been determined yet. Either way, Vader is more powerful, physically stronger, more durable, and has more experience in combat. He is also adept in throwing his lightsaber, as already being a master swordsman, which he could telikinetically control if he so chose.
Vader's armor is condiserably resilient, having taken a full baseball swing from Luke's lightsaber in there duel on Bespin.
Sure, he'll panic. Just like he panicked against Voldemort in The sorcerors stone. What did he do? He stood his ground and won the day.
In the Chamber of secrets, he killed the giant Basilisk with a sword. Did he panic? No.
In the prisoner of Azkaban, did he panic when the Dementors chased him? Nope.
In the Goblet of fire, he pwned the Hungarian horntail, the most ferocious dragon in the world, not a moment of panic. When in the great lake for the second task, did he panic as he almost drowned? No. He used a levitating charm to reach the surface, even as the mermen surrounded him. In the third task, he never panicked, even while injured.
Then he faced Voldemort in the graveyard. Surrounded by death eaters. Was tortured and forced to duel Voldy. Panic? Nope. He stood his ground and escaped.
In the Order of the Phoenix, yeah, the battle with the Death eaters in the ministry. Yeah, what a panic fest!!!! He never panicked.
In the Half Blood Prince, when did he ever panic? Even when pulled under the water 100 feet, he was focused and fighting the whole time.
But sure, against Vader he'll panic
Harry Potter does NOT panic, dude. He rises to the occasion and ALWAYS wins the day. He's undefeated through six films.
Whats vaders record? Hmm?
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I forgot Draco. Harry is like 12 and 0. Vader? Lets see....Pwned by Kenobi. Beat Kenobi because Kenobi allowed it. Pwned Luke. Pwned by Luke. He's barely 2 and 2.
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See? Not all armored. Besides, an impact spell or jinx on the chest plate that contains the controls for his breathing mechanism, and Vader is done.
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What's Vaders record against a guy who can make him swell up like a balloon and float away?
BTW, the death spell, which Voldemort tried on Harry, is much more powerful than force choke.
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So he can do the wand movements and say the incantation before Vader can think about choking him?
And what happened to you saying that....even Wolverine couldn't power through the Force Choke, it was too powerful, you're gonna pass out in a few seconds?
The Engorgio spell is a non verbal spell that requires no incantation. Harry did in in The Prisoner of Azkaban.
Force choke asphyxiates it's victim, dude. How long can Harry hold his breath? See for yourself:
Over a minute, easily, and that's with two people in tow AND fighting off mermen. Oh yeah, did he panic? Nope. Ascendo, he pwned and won the day.
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Holding your breath, and being choked out are 2 different things. Don't try to act like their they're the same.
I still find it hilarious how you play up and down characters and abilities when you want them to win. You like Vader better than Wolverine, so Vader wins, you like Potter better than Vader, so he wins.
Whenever anybody got choked, they could barely move, and they were gasping at their throat for air. Harry won't be able to focus enough to do anything.
They were panicking, dude. Padme, Ozzel, Piett, all panicking, they had no way to defend themselves. What did you expect them to do, run around doing jumping jacks?
Harry Potter, as I have proven, never panics. Sure, he might be like WTF for a second or three, but he'll come to his senses and Engorgio Vader.
See, no matter what Vader throws at Harry, Harry has more than enough resolve and attacks to counter and win. He has faced Voldemort numerous times and won, and Voldemort would kick the shit outta Vader.
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