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My proof be that if the Jedi and Sith have use of their abilities, the force MUST be present in the galaxy arena to be a thread.

The evidence presented by common sense.

Or is this the entirely "Hahahaah Hogawrts win, when you strip the opposing force of all screenfeated attributes and basic givens" thread I thought it was..?


Thread takes place inside of a Matrix that preserves each side's powers. I stated this back in the nascent days of the MVF. It's the only way the fights can take place because they are each from different universes unless specified in the films. (ie, Star Wars states it in the opening credits of each film that it's the same universe.)


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OK That be sense.


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Thread takes place inside of a Matrix that preserves each side's powers. I stated this back in the nascent days of the MVF. It's the only way the fights can take place because they are each from different universes unless specified in the films. (ie, Star Wars states it in the opening credits of each film that it's the same universe.)
"A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away."


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A line which doesn't negate the universal presence of the Force.


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Actually it does. When Yoda said "Galaxy" in the singular sense, it is restricted to SWgalaxy only.


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I feel weird not knowing this. Can you post the scene?


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Actually it does. When Yoda said "Galaxy" in the singular sense, it is restricted to SWgalaxy only.


Not logical.

If I were to say that "Oxygen is in the air mix in Texas", would it necessarily mean that theres none in Florida...?

Nope. Same thing.

You really must have nothing left, if desperately trying to gimp the force is all you have.


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So what the angle now, wizards get their magic but the Force-users don't get access to the Force?


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Admiral Motti: "This station is now the ultimate power in the universe!"


I guess he must be right. Afterall, he said it.


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Not logical.

If I were to say that "Oxygen is in the air mix in Texas", would it necessarily mean that theres none in Florida...?

Nope. Same thing.

You really must have nothing left, if desperately trying to gimp the force is all you have.
Aaaaaaand what DDM said went in your left ear and out the right. roll eyes (sarcastic)


Read what he said again. Their powers are with them, but the Force does not bind the HPGalaxy together. They can still do all the same things they did in SWGalaxy.

It really doesn't make a difference, truth be told, why are we arguing about something that is of no relevance?





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So what the angle now, wizards get their magic but the Force-users don't get access to the Force?
What I just said, above.


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Admiral Motti: "This station is now the ultimate power in the universe!"


I guess he must be right. Afterall, he said it.
Motti was obviously placing too much confidence in the Death Star when he said that.


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Aaaaaaand what DDM said went in your left ear and out the right. roll eyes (sarcastic)


Read what he said again. Their powers are with them, but the Force does not bind the HPGalaxy together. They can still do all the same things they did in SWGalaxy.

It really doesn't make a difference, truth be told, why are we arguing about something that is of no relevance?





What I just said, above.


Nope thats a modification denying the force of its basic attributes.

It does make a difference, cause it points out that if the force is what it is, it is everything present in this contest..and that kinda rules out a HP win, as all the advantages would be with the force users, but you've tried to mess with it totally in the wizards favour lol


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Nope thats a modification denying the force of its basic attributes.

It does make a difference, cause it points out that if the force is what it is, it is everything present in this contest..and that kinda rules out a HP win, as all the advantages would be with the force users, but you've tried to mess with it totally in the wizards favour lol



If you can't keep up, sorry.

Wizard magic works as it did onscreen. Force powers work as they did onscreen.

The Galaxy does not have to bind the Galaxy together for force powers to work in the MVF. After all, if the wizards were in SWGalaxy, their magic would work just fine.


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Cant keep up with your rabid, unfettered wizardbias mania?

No one can. Theres no shame in that.

It does bind the galaxy in this scenario, as its a basic attribute of what the force is.

Nah thats your speculation.


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So in order for a Jedi to wield the force, they must be in a Galaxy that is binded by the force?

K. Guess they're screwed here then.

On a side note, the Wizards, if on Coruscant, can wield magic just fine yes Figure that out.


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Motti was obviously placing too much confidence in the Death Star when he said that.
And Kenobi and Yoda are fallible in-universe mortals, subject to the same oversimplification and generalization that anyone is, just like Motti. They're also notorious liars: "He betrayed and murdered your father."


Seriously, don't try that route. It's both silly and not fun.


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Doesn't really matter, their force powers cannot surpass what we saw onscreen. All this "the force binds the galaxy together ZOMG!!!!" is nonsense.


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Doesn't really matter, their force powers cannot surpass what we saw onscreen. All this "the force binds the galaxy together ZOMG!!!!" is nonsense.
That's better. Now, fix that hair of yours.


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So in order for a Jedi to wield the force, they must be in a Galaxy that is binded by the force?

K. Guess they're screwed here then.

On a side note, the Wizards, if on Coruscant, can wield magic just fine yes Figure that out.


Yep. The wizards're screwed. Rj. They were screwed AGES ago.

Cause if the force is present at all, it has all its attributes.

Look up Chi, Prana, (Or 'the force' as the call it in SW parts stick out tongue ) Jung, Einstein's unified field theory and other things that all point to "force" prescence in our galaxy universe.
(Its all the stuff that GL based the force on.)

And that'll the end of your attempted, desperate force gimping. smile


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so, now the force only works in SWU, what a bunch of LOLS and even more LOLS...


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