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srankmissingnin
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Apparently you don't know what "two-shotted" entails. Which part is confusing to you so much? I'll be glade to clarify it for you, if you let me know.


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I already know what you think about what Wolverine being shot/stabbed through to his brain via his eye sockets entails, i.e., it didn't actually happen because real life human anatomy dictates so when we talk about the fictional comic book mutant, Wolverine, and I didn't like it.

I also know what you think about Thor's chances against Wolverine, i.e., it will take him all day to knock him out.

Accordingly, I know enough.


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I already know what you think about what Wolverine being shot/stabbed through to his brain via his eye sockets entails, i.e., it didn't actually happen because real life human anatomy dictates so when we talk about the fictional comic book mutant, Wolverine, and I didn't like it.

I also know what you think about Thor's chances against Wolverine, i.e., it will take him all day to knock him out.

Accordingly, I know enough.


Actually, I think that Wolverine can't get shot through the brain via his eye sockets because we've seen that he has the bones that would need to be missing in order for it to happen. You think it is completely reasonable to ignore every example of Wolverine's visible skull of in favor of half a dozen examples, and I don't. Wolverine getting shot through the eye socket isn't evidence of him missing bones any more than it is evidence that Adamantium can be penetrated by bullets, and both are equally ridiculous.

Yeah and you think Thor two-shotted Wolverine... even though he was clearly conscious and perfectly fine on panel.

You also think Balder can take down Wolverine with an ability that has only been used effectively to exploit a magical weakness of Frost Trolls. A weakness Wolverine doesn't have.


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we still need balder feats, it'd stave off all the frustrations you guys seem to have. balder messes up just a little and he could get gutted, wolverine could get knocked out also.


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Actually, I think that Wolverine can't get shot through the brain via his eye sockets because we've seen that he has the bones that would need to be missing in order for it to happen. You think it is completely reasonable to ignore every example of Wolverine's visible skull of in favor of half a dozen examples, and I don't. Wolverine getting shot through the eye socket isn't evidence of him missing bones any more than it is evidence that Adamantium can be penetrated by bullets, and both are equally ridiculous.
Seriously, what does it matter what I think when I know what you think about this, i.e., it didn't or couldn't happen because real life human anatomy says so:

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Seriously, what does it matter what I think when I know what you think about whether Thor can knock out Wolverine under a day's worth of time, i.e., Thor cannot do so?

You ask for proof, edivence, rationale, logic and conclusions as if they'd mean anything to you. Anything that doesn't advance your position or undermines your position doesn't mean anything to you. You dismiss it unilaterally. You've made that clear. Your "requests" have always been, and continue to be, dubious at best.


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Seriously, what does it matter what I think when I know what you think about this, i.e., it didn't or couldn't happen because real life human anatomy says so:b

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Seriously, what does it matter what I think when I know what you think about whether Thor can knock out Wolverine under a day's worth of time, i.e., Thor cannot do so?

You ask for proof, edivence, rationale, logic and conclusions as if they'd mean anything to you. Anything that doesn't advance your position or undermines your position doesn't mean anything to you. You dismiss it unilaterally. You've made that clear. Your "requests" have always been, and continue to be, dubious at best.


Yeah... because my not supporting your insane "Phantom Bone Theory" really hurts my credibility. Oh wait... I think you might have forgotten that not a single other poster on this board is drinking that Cool-aid champ. Seriously, is there even a single other person on this board that subscribes to that theory of yours?

Anyway, this has all been addressed in great depth going on about 100 times now. I'm going to give it another go, so stop acting like a child for once in your life and read what I'm going to post this time, because frankly I'm tired of posting it. Now, I've explained why each individual example isn't valid to you ad nauseum, so I'm not going to do it again here. If however one day you decide you actual want to read what I've said instead of instantly hitting the reply button and then aborting your asinine sub-par fanfic theories all over the forums, I would strongly encourage you to do so.

Wolverine's skull can't be penetrated because A) we've seen his skull and the bones that it consists of, and B) his skull is molecularly bonded with Adamantium. Those aren't my opinions, it is just the reality of the situation. Now, You've presented your theory that Wolverine is missing bones behind his eyes, nasal cavity, ear and bottom of the skull. You presented this theory in an attempt to explain how those examples might have been possible, which at the very least shows you are aware on some level of absurdity of the examples at that a theory to rationalize how they are possible is required. That's all it is though, a theory. Now, I'm real sorry champ, I know it gets you all rilled up and upset but the existence of the bones supersedes your theories. We've seen the bones, their existence is concrete where as your theory is merely speculation. Your theory runs in direct opposition with on panel evidence, Wolverine has the bones that would need to be missing in order for your theory to stand up. So, instead of concocting a new theory you've just decided to ignore the fact that those bones exist, and go about your day.

So if Wolverine wasn't shot in the brain because he was missing bones, what other explanations are that can possibly validate these feats, for you? Maybe the bullets penetrated his Adamantium skull? There is just is much info on panel for us to come to the conclusion that the bullets simple bore straight through Wolverine's Adamantium bones. But once again knowing the properties and history of Adamantium we know this isn't possible either.

The most obvious and rational explanation is none of the bullets ever actually made into Wolverine's brain in the first place. That the force of the bullets - some of which being high caliber anti material rounds - impacting against his skull, bruising and rupturing his brain and koing him temporarily. It's not as though we ever see the bullet inside Wolverine's brain. This is the only example that doesn't contradict Wolverine's established anatomy or the inherit properties of Adamantium. It creates some slight inconsistency with the narration in a few cases, but thats nothing compared to the questions and problems created by the other two theories. Obviously it was the intent of the shooter in each instance to get Wolverine in the brain, but without x-ray vision we the reader can really only speculate on whether or not that happened and within the established parameters of the Wolverine's character, it isn't something that can happen.

Now obviously there are still problems with that theory, but that is unavoidable. We are trying to come up with a rational explanation to explain why a handful of PIS examples happened. They can't be explained rationally because logically and rationally they should never have happened. Luckily we have rules that all the preclusion of examples like this so none of us need to lose any sleep. THEY ARE ALL PIS, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW THEY HAPPENED BECAUSE AS FAR AS THE FORUM IS CONCERNED THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN AT ALL. We don't allow PIS, so STOP BUILDING YOUR WHOLE CASE AROUND A HANDFUL OF PIS EXAMPLES!.

Oh and seriously, you have a lot of nerve to get mad for what you perceive as me dismissing your posts unilaterally. Time and time again I have gone out of my way to tell you why these things aren't valid, only for you to write a long winded post saying "well they happened, get used to it." I know they happened, now tell my why they are valid. Obviously they took place on panel but you know what else took place on panel? Wolverine climbed out of a vat of molten metal, which I noticed that is something you take objection to. So clearly you are - at the very least - vaguely aware that not everything presented on panel is valid representation. Well, guess what? These are some of those examples. I've told you why they aren't valid, and all you've managed to do time and time and time and time again is say "Well... they did happen. I've explained my stance to you many times, while all you do is sqwak "It happened. It happened. It happened," over and over again. Start singing a new tune.

Now that is out of the way maybe you'd like to stop changing the subject and explain how Balder koes Wolverine with an ability has only been shown to be effective on a easily exploited magical weakness of Frost Giants? Or your you just going to keep pretending I'm not asking you that question because - as usual - you don't have a answer?


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^ Waitaminute... are you suggesting that nobody else thinks Wolverine has had, much less can have, his brain penetrated on-panel? That I am the only one who sees those scans and interprets them as Wolverine having his brain penetrated on-panel, or that he can have his brain penetrated?


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All those scans are pis.

This is backed up by... human anatomy... ya, that's it.


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i always keep wondering what claremont would say about these newer writers and what they done to wolverine..


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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Seriously, what does it matter what I think when I know what you think about this, i.e., it didn't or couldn't happen because real life human anatomy says so:

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Seriously, what does it matter what I think when I know what you think about whether Thor can knock out Wolverine under a day's worth of time, i.e., Thor cannot do so?

You ask for proof, edivence, rationale, logic and conclusions as if they'd mean anything to you. Anything that doesn't advance your position or undermines your position doesn't mean anything to you. You dismiss it unilaterally. You've made that clear. Your "requests" have always been, and continue to be, dubious at best.


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Balder gets decimated.


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Wolverine stomps the Viking god!

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