the aryan race was originally the 1st tribe or group of ppl to master agriculture in india the enlighten ones...the nazi then claim they originated from these smart ppl who may have supposedly come from atlantis a technologically advance race and then threw in some angels as well into their BS story..
the viking spread out and mixed with certain races including the russians who did invade and places like the middle east and possibly india not sure...
basically all they did was latch on to another races history to give themselves some form of history and purpose.. you can thank hitler for this propaganda
Ok but can you give me specific examples meditation practices that the American Indians used that were found in India? can you give me examples of religous symbology that both the Vikings and the people in India used?
Mate I think you missed the point I was making, again.
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Never seen Thor with a Swastika , have seen Roman helmets with Swatikas though, just tells you that knowledge and symbols are passed along, which we all know. Doesn't really connect as you're saying though, could, but not concrete.
The India-Aryan thing is something around 6k BC (though there's many theories that differ), which is around 7k years before the Vikings.
Why would I do that? I'm not making the claim that the Seoux or Apache could "Iron Shirt" because their lineage can be traced back to Asia if you go back far enough.
I can't, though I do think most religions share common routes, again, if you go back far enough. Then there's also the chance of dumb coincidence.
your viking race tied to india's aryan people is a fantasy started by hitler... they are as much your ancestors as they are mine.. they were simply the 1st human group to master agriculture and help build a society a bases for humanity in all parts of the world some 5, 6, 7 8, thousands if not longer of years ago...
by your argument i can call myself a descendant of vikings as easily as an african guy can and i would be right genetically speaking with all sharing the same majority genetics
hitler took the swaztika from an expedition in a monastery in either asia or in india..
either way native americans also have the swastika and the crooked cross is a symbol for the aztec serpent god who is similar to jesus. also thor's hammer was also depicted as a cross and sh#$
Its not just the swastika. There is that specific meditation practice and there are also gods in the Rig-Vedas that are similar to Norse gods. You sure the Romans had swastikas?
The Celts are also Indo-Europeans and I think there was a statue found in India that looked almost exactly like a celtic god.
Not sure what your point is but as far as I know they can be traced back ther due to migration patterns.
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i feel like crying.. i didnt think anyone was still brain washed by hitlers propaganda..
i wanna grab him by the collar drag him to a class and sit his @$$ in some college courses, like religions of the world, cultural awareness and even agriculture and its history..
I've seen a picture. The Swastika is a fairly common symbol, many cultures used it, doesn't mean there was a direct connection simply because of it. Some tribes of the American Indians used them in their weavings; does that mean they had a Hindu-connection too?
Not sure what my point is? Not sure what your point is, I've said many post ago that if you go back far enough you can trace everyone to a common ground.
The Aryan race is a concept historically influential in European culture and American culture in the period of the late 19th century and early 20th century. It derives from the idea that the original speakers of the Indo-European languages and their descendants up to the present day constitute a distinctive race or subrace of the larger Caucasian race.[1]
While originally meant simply as a neutral ethnic classification, it was later used for political racism in Nazi and neo-Nazi ideological form. It became a concept of scientific racism, and hence also in other currents such as occultism and white supremacism.
Hitler didn't perputate anything he just used it for his own agenda.
Except thats not really my point.
Everybody can be traced back somewhere but my point is that Vikings in particular took something from their stay in India.
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wiki is nice how about you take college courses like i did.,. i know how it was used.. why dont you actually study the real aryans and not the myth ones perpetuated by politics and groups of ppl for political power
Except there are too many conicedences. Ok theres the mediation posture. That might be coincedence but you can't give me examplesof the American Indians doing something similar. There are gods athat are too sinilar eg a big muscly god with an axe that slow a giant serpent. Thor was also to have said to have an axe and there is also a god that is similar to Odin.
Everybody can be traced back somewhere but they seem to have picked up certain things.
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Except your college courses teached you that most Vikings were explorers which is crap. I think there is something that refers to in the Book Gods and Myths of Northern Europe by H.R. Ellis Davidson. Sure I can't conclusively rpove certain points but yu've been talking crap since this thread started.
Excuse me? Just because I can't prove that iron shirt isn't real doesn't mean that i've been talking nonsense for the whole of this thread. If you actually read the thread from the beginning most of the points I've made are decent points. So to insinuate that i've been consistently talking crap is selecting what you like.
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you know many religions have similar history and characterization of the main deities?
you grasping at straws
Quetzalcoatl - beard, symbol is a crooked cross...savior and champion of mankind son of the main god.. able to turn into the feather serpent or at least is his animal totem.. will be seen in the sky as a harbinger
Thor- beard, symbol is a hammer cross... savior and champion of mankind son of the main god.. thor is destine to fight the world serpent..
coincidence? or are they the same god but some how stories have bn mixed and confused.. maybe its the same race origin..
pretty sure i didnt say all or most and used it as simply saying what they did... if you feel over generalized then i apologize for your misconception..
as not all or the majority sailed and explored many simply settled and farmed their lands
Emmanuel(jesus) - beard, symbol is a cross...savior and champion of mankind son of the main god.. religion talks about serpent giant dragons the adversary being viewed as a serpent
so, I did go back through the thread, and the only evidence to anything you had posted was a clip some guy did talking about an episode of deadliest warrior.
prior to your mentioning of the "iron shirt" technique, no reference to "chi" powers and vikings had been made
so, ya, having looked through your contribution, I still wonder if your position that there is a direct link between the mystical practices of the Vikings and the Indians, especially with regard to "iron shirt-esque" meditation, is just an opinion, or if you have any credible resources to back it up. It certainly isn't impossible, and I'd love to see evidence that it is true.
I think thats an Indo-European example. Christians sometimes took aspects of Norse lore and made it part of Christian mythology.
Thor- beard, symbol is a hammer cross... savior and champion of mankind son of the main god.. thor is destine to fight the world serpent..
Actually not all pantheons are similar the alot of the finnish gods are different from Norse gods.
So far I've only seen Thor. Its a coincedence that the Vikings can be traced back there and that Thor had an axe and slayed a serpent.? I don't know any Roman, Greek or Chinese gods like that. I still haven't seen any other cultures that used that specific form of meditation.
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What I said to you is the whole of the thread and that its just one argument I made. You obvously didn't look through the thread properly because I talked about alot of other stuff.
I have no problem about you thinking that the Vikings didn't use chi or there isn't a connection but to then insuinate that I reguraly talk crap is gross generlisation.
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