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Ridley_Prime
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Regardless of whether the Bardock movie is canon, it's funny how Frieza in first form was able to destroy planet Vegeta in pretty much the blink of an eye, yet in his final form, he couldn't destroy Namek fast enough for Goku and the others to instantly die from the explosion. PIS anyone? stick out tongue

But yeah, him and Monarch are hardly even the least bit comparable.


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Regardless of whether the Bardock movie is canon, it's funny how Frieza in first form was able to destroy planet Vegeta in pretty much the blink of an eye, yet in his final form, he couldn't destroy Namek fast enough for Goku and the others to instantly die from the explosion. PIS anyone? stick out tongue

But yeah, him and Monarch are hardly even the least bit comparable.


Of course they didn't look similar but their objective was completely the same along with their status AND power.

How many times do I have to say this... the only reason frieza was unable to blow up planet namek was due to the fact that escaping the spirit bomb depleted him of his energy. Again... he admits this before killing krillin. Frieza at final form should be able to take out multiples of planets with a wave of his hand. In the anime he did this (during the time he was fighting super saiyan goku) but not in the manga.

It wasn't pis, he was just damagedm even piccolo during the begining stated that frieza could destroy planet namek instantly.


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I'll have to look at the manga again sometime, but from what I remember in the anime, Frieza sarcastically said "That spirit bomb of yours sure packs a wallop. It even knocked the breath out of me" and laughed. The attack didn't do anything to him except like a couple scratches, so I doubt that had anything to do with how fast he was able to make Namek blow up.


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I'll have to look at the manga again sometime, but from what I remember in the anime, Frieza sarcastically said "That spirit bomb of yours sure packs a wallop. It even knocked the breath out of me" and laughed. The attack didn't do anything to him except like a couple scratches, so I doubt that had anything to do with how fast he was able to make Namek blow up.


Naah, frieza stated that it took almost "all" of his energy to escape the spirit bomb and he never smiled during that instance... he was PISSED. The only time he smiled was during the time he killed krillin.


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Duuh... the spirit bomb took all of his energy, of course he couldnt destroy namek, he didn't have the energy. He even admits this when he rose from the dust (that stupid ball took all of my energy to escape).

Frieza display far more power than monarch but due to monarch durabilty, I would give him the nods any day of the week against frieza but if I had to chose between who is more powerful, I would say final form frieza.
In the vs. forum weren't you saying that monarches durability to and I quote "boo boo"


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In the vs. forum weren't you saying that monarches durability to and I quote "boo boo"


You got me mixed up with quan. Quan posted scans of monarch durability not being so impressive... I never said this but what I did say is that monarch was toying with prime and I also said that monarch durability is above frieza. Again, no matter how much that young heart of yours hate this, monarch never displayed anything CLOSE to the type of power that frieza has and neither has thanos. Hell, thanos recently was PISSED for being brought back to life and he still couldn't pull 1% of frieza power output, even during a rage.


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Dude what are you talking about Goku isnt invulnerable, Superman is except for kryptonite. But lets say that kryptonite is taken out of the equation. In brute strength Superman would pwn Goku. Gokus not even strong enough to move a moon and Superman is. Besides even if Goku blasted a whole bunch of kamehamehas at Supes, Superman is too fast for Goku and would beat the crap out of him. PCE!

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You got me mixed up with quan. Quan posted scans of monarch durability not being so impressive... I never said this but what I did say is that monarch was toying with prime and I also said that monarch durability is above frieza. Again, no matter how much that young heart of yours hate this, monarch never displayed anything CLOSE to the type of power that frieza has and neither has thanos. Hell, thanos recently was PISSED for being brought back to life and he still couldn't pull 1% of frieza power output, even during a rage.
So quick to agree with Quans lowballing no expression


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You got me mixed up with quan. Quan posted scans of monarch durability not being so impressive... I never said this but what I did say is that monarch was toying with prime and I also said that monarch durability is above frieza. Again, no matter how much that young heart of yours hate this, monarch never displayed anything CLOSE to the type of power that frieza has and neither has thanos. Hell, thanos recently was PISSED for being brought back to life and he still couldn't pull 1% of frieza power output, even during a rage.


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Dude what are you talking about Goku isnt invulnerable, Superman is except for kryptonite. But lets say that kryptonite is taken out of the equation. In brute strength Superman would pwn Goku. Gokus not even strong enough to move a moon and Superman is. Besides even if Goku blasted a whole bunch of kamehamehas at Supes, Superman is too fast for Goku and would beat the crap out of him. PCE!


Lolololhahahahahahahalololol... wtf.

Everything in this post is all wrong.


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Dude what are you talking about Goku isnt invulnerable, Superman is except for kryptonite. But lets say that kryptonite is taken out of the equation. In brute strength Superman would pwn Goku. Gokus not even strong enough to move a moon and Superman is. Besides even if Goku blasted a whole bunch of kamehamehas at Supes, Superman is too fast for Goku and would beat the crap out of him. PCE!


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Lolololhahahahahahahalololol... wtf.

Everything in this post is all wrong.

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madara can kill goku he can umm lets see tavel faster than him knows most of all the mangeyko sharingan tsokiyomi which can kill anyone with out a sharingan if he pleases too if your wondering he travels at the speed of light thank you you know how many times some dumbass thinks someone is going to stand there and let goku do his kamehameha

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If super man sun dips he can. I know it's only Anime and comics but you said any one so sephiroth. Why? It's call super nova. And there's alucard because you just can't kill him. Why? He's broken. And there's the sentry.

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Originally posted by narutoisthebest
Dude what are you talking about Goku isnt invulnerable, Superman is except for kryptonite. But lets say that kryptonite is taken out of the equation. In brute strength Superman would pwn Goku. Gokus not even strong enough to move a moon and Superman is. Besides even if Goku blasted a whole bunch of kamehamehas at Supes, Superman is too fast for Goku and would beat the crap out of him. PCE!

Uuummm no. See superman vs dooms day who killed sup sooo need I say more? Because I'm happy to keep going if you want.

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Supes needs no sundip. If he sundips he roflcopter stomps.


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Supes needs no sundip. If he sundips he roflcopter stomps.

I think super sayin 4 goku could win but there both well above planet busters in any case.

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I think super sayin 4 goku could win but there both well above planet busters in any case.


Black hair Goku is more than enough and Goku is the planet buster.

Super Saiyan 4... no Superman besides Cosmic Armor could beat this version of Goku. Imagine if Black hair Goku being capable of blowing up planets... imagine what a Super Saiyan 4 Goku could do.


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And sadly imagine is all we can do.


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Black hair Goku is more than enough and Goku is the planet buster.

Super Saiyan 4... no Superman besides Cosmic Armor could beat this version of Goku. Imagine if Black hair Goku being capable of blowing up planets... imagine what a Super Saiyan 4 Goku could do.



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Originally posted by Nephthys
And sadly imagine is all we can do.


Hhhmmm... thinking about it, Frieza destroyed planet Vegeta with .25% of his power. Since we know that Goku is a hero and wouldn't rip through planets like Frieza would but since we know that Frieza blew up a planet with just .25% of his power and a Super Saiyan can generate far more power than a frieza that was only at 500000 Power Level wise, shedding multiple of planets shouldn't be a problem for a super Saiyan.

Super Saiyan 4... don't even want to imagine.

I have already proven on NUMEROUS of occassions that the more powerful you are, even by a small percentage, you could generate more power than someone with a weaker power level (Piccolo having a power level of 300 and his blast being overpowered by Goku who had a power level of 350 OR the Goku and Vegeta Ki clash... Goku blast over powering Vegeta blast because he was more powerful).


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