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Originally posted by Starscream M
no. but logan is better at certain things than any of those guys...strength isn't everything ya know?

You claiming all they had going for them is strength. They have far more versatlity and the gap between Wolverine and many of the JLA he fought is vast. Yet claws (which has failed to cut everything as you claimed it could) and a HF (one could argue Martian Manhunter has a better healing factor) overcome their abilities?

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You implied it by more or less stating he'd do better than they would.

not really.

I did imply logan was better at ONE thing....cutting...which worked better against the probes than raw force, as shown by DD.

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not really.

I did imply logan was better at ONE thing....cutting...which worked better against the probes than raw force, as shown by DD.

DD is the epitome of "raw force" no expression

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I don't think he was amped at all when he fought the probes. It's a moot point since Apocalypse isn't close to Superman's physical equal.

Then my mistake.

Regardless, I'd agree that Apoc doesn't have much of a shot here given what the Probes did (with relative ease).

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Why on earth are you still comparing Wolverine to DD?

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Wouldn't it make sense that DD tore through like he did because he is so strong?

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Why on earth are you still comparing Wolverine to DD?

Im not really comparing them directly...as obviuosly DD is vastly more powerful.

Im comparing their modes of attack, they both attack through sharp cutting attacks...and logan although weak, will be backed by colossus CL100 strength.

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Wouldn't it make sense that DD tore through like he did because he is so strong?

Ding! Even though Wolverine's claws are incredibly sharp they have failed against many things. Which some of the reason was due to the fact he doesn't generate enough force to cut the said object.

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Wouldn't it make sense that DD tore through like he did because he is so strong?

yes...his strength played a big part but also because he had the tools (his sharp bone spurs). WW is not much weaker than DD yet she couldnt tear through the probes because her attacks were blunt force.

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Im not really comparing them directly...as obviuosly DD is vastly more powerful.

Im comparing their modes of attack, they both attack through sharp cutting attacks...and logan although weak, will be backed by colossus CL100 strength.

So Colossus will hold Logan's hand and guide it while he cuts through the probe? And the closeness of their bodies will make them fall in love right? Ghey.

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Im not really comparing them directly...as obviuosly DD is vastly more powerful.

Im comparing their modes of attack, they both attack through sharp cutting attacks...and logan although weak, will be backed by colossus CL100 strength.

Having sharp claws will not be enough erm

Colossus is still nothing to the other JLA members the Probe easily destroyed. So point?

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Ding! Even though Wolverine's claws are incredibly sharp they have failed against many things. Which some of the reason was due to the fact he doesn't generate enough force to cut the said object.

ok...and I never said Logan could beat a probe by himself. I said Logan + Colossus could possibly do so. Colossus would provide the force logan lacks.

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yes...his strength played a big part but also because he had the tools (his sharp bone spurs). WW is not much weaker than DD yet she couldnt tear through the probes because her attacks were blunt force.

Doomsday is considerably stronger than WW.

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Doomsday is considerably stronger than WW.

depends on what you mean by considerably...I would say he is at best 30% stronger

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ok...and I never said Logan could beat a probe by himself. I said Logan + Colossus could possibly do so. Colossus would provide the force logan lacks.

and that is horribly faulty logic as the JLA teams a probe defeated are vastly superior to the duo of Colossus and Wolverine in pretty much all areas.

Not really, especially when people stronger and faster then the duo have failed. Yet their going to have success here? Interesting. Precious, simply precious.

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Then why was Supes able to do tear through Probes when he stopped holding back?

Seriously, the whole "the Probes are weak to cutting attacks" deal is dubious. WW might be in Supes'/DD's strength tier, but both are a fair bit stronger than she is. Plus, Wondy was able to take out one probe via blunt force (she used her shield to do so, IIRC).

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I'm learning lots from this thread as apparently

Wolverine & Colossus > Green Lantern (Kyle), Flash, J�onn, Plastic Man, Aquaman, and Hawkgirl

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I'm learning lots from this thread as apparently

Wolverine & Colossus > Green Lantern (Kyle), Flash, J�onn, Plastic Man, Aquaman, and Hawkgirl

Don't forget that it also means Apocalypse> Kyle, Flash, J'onn, Aquaman, Plastic Man, and Hawkgirl.

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Green Lantern (Kyle), Flash, J�onn, Plastic Man, Aquaman, and Hawkgirl

wow impressive there

kyle prob performed poorly due to PIS

flash is a jobber

j'onn is a pussy

plastic man is a clown

aquaman can't do shit

and hawkgirl...lol

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wow impressive there

kyle prob performed poorly due to PIS

flash is a jobber

j'onn is a pussy

plastic man is a clown

aquaman can't do shit

and hawkgirl...lol

Oh my God. You're serious. You actually think Wolvie and Colossus > that team. no expression

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