Oh, okay. Well, I don't know your threshold, but I mean, it's not nearly as violent as Mel Gibson's The Passion of The Christ, if that's what you're thinking of (it's a better movie, too, imo).
Yeah, they're two very different movies. There was a big fuss from the Christian conservative Right-wing when Last Temptation came out. They wanted to have the original film burned (it implies that Jesus had sex with Mary Magdalene, so... yeah, you can imagine).
And to address this thread's original intent oh-so briefly..
No. People aren't afraid of it.. they don't believe in it because it's silly and there are more important things to be concerned with.
You can believe that we have a greater purpose without believing in God. What about you family? I find the love and dedication to them as far more of a purpose than any God.
This makes little sense. If you murder someone, you still fear the jugdement of the court system. I know I don't want a life sentence, and find it to be one hell of a deterrent.
Those who use God to determine their purpose/meaning have a hard time fathoming that it can be found outside a religious worldview, and that one's purpose can be just as fulfilling. That idea is almost impossible relate to someone who can't see it on their own. But you're right, it's very easy to do.
^Won't make any difference if you/they fear it or not. It will still happen to you/them whether they/you believe in it or not. Not believing or fearing won't save you/them from it.
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Most people believe Evolution not because they themselves are dumb, but cause they trust the "experts" who are feeding them evolutionary fast food, and so they don't bother questioning whether or not it's true.
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We won't be saved because there isn't anything to actually be saved from.
Ignoring the fact that if some *thing* does exist it has no right to judge any of us. Someone who hasn't ever done a thing for me and whom I have never met is going to suddenly think he can sit back and judge stuff I did? I mean wasn't it this guys kid that said the whole "stones and glass houses" thing? Perhaps dear ol' Dad should of been paying more attention..kids *do* say the darndest things.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
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Ah yes, an loving God should judge all people, evil or good. Well, take for example Person A and Person B. Person A is a murderer and a rapist, who, at his last remaining hours, repents his sins and accepts Christ as his savior, thus receiving redemption and paradise despite the chaos and pain he has inflicted all his life. Person B is a family man who is an atheist, has done nothing but be a good upstanding person all his life, treated others with kindness and benevolence. He goes to Hell for not accepting Christ.
Anyways, any religion that claims to be peaceful and has eternal damnation as an outcome, cannot be a force for good, at the end of the day it's all hate-filled crap.
This is some stupid nonsense. I don't think any intelligent atheist will stand with you on this one. You make them look bad.
And as far as the topic, it's also dumb. No, atheists aren't afraid of judgment, they're atheists.
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
Figures you would pop up like the obsessed creep that you are.
Unbelievers will ultimately be sent to the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15)
3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.” 4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second into their mother’s womb to be born!” 5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. John 3:3-6
Obsessed creep? Amusing from the guy that can't stop himself from coming into religion threads saying "religion sucks". Hypocrisy is cute.
Also great job posting new testament scripture without knowing anything about it being a metaphor or allegory or something else. Confirmation bias ftw
__________________ There's a man goin' 'round takin' names.
An' he decides who to free and who to blame.
Everybody won't be treated all the same.
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down.
When the man comes around.
I thought I'd look at this thread again and I see a lot of the same question asked over and over about why would someone fear something that they don't believe in. The reality is that most of us are aware of the fact that people can be and are regularly scared of things that they "know" are not real, like killer dolls for example. Here comes the part I thought would be obvious...
The idea of being judged and found deserving of destruction sucks! Do you have
to believe in God to imagine that nobody looks forward to being judged by anyone besides themselves? If you can imagine that getting cut up by killer dolls sucks even though you don't believe in them, then you can imagine that getting judged to eternal destruction could suck even if you don't believe in God!
Furthermore, aside from the fact that imagining situations beforehand is a common human ability, the question of whether atheists are afraid of judgement or not isn't restricted to answers from atheists only! Of all the people in the world, who has less scripture concerning the matter than those who call themselves atheists? That's simply a fact when concerning atheists and teachings from a deity, not a dismissal of the value of the person who calls themselves an atheist. Understandably, an atheists would not consider any teaching as "holy/deity ordained" and therefore "without error" due to that fact.
This is the religion forum after all so I would hope that I might hear some ideas from people other than those who represent the opposite of the spiritually religious. To be honest it's surprising that so many atheists would find it worthy of their time to post in the first place! (Not saying I don't enjoy them, cause I do, I'm just making a point.) I have never posted in a 'Playing with my little ponys!' forum because I have no interest in playing with my little ponies. I don't practice it or believe that it's necessary. Honestly, if I were to post in a forum like that it would probably be to tease the people who were taking it seriously, so considering the fact that many people mock what they don't take seriously, I would definitely want some feedback from some people who don't call themselves atheists. Is that irrational thinking?
@leonheartmm Point out how I'm being arrogant.
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Why would anyone be afraid of juidgement from something that isn't real? I don't care what Santa or the Easter bunny think of me either.
__________________ Chicken Boo, what's the matter with you? You don't act like the other chickens do. You wear a disguise to look like human guys, but you're not a man you're a Chicken Boo.
This thread is incredibly dumb. I'm not sure what it takes to hear about 20 variations on "no" from atheists and still try to force the premise, but OP has it. Like mashing a round peg into a square hole over and over.
Lol at the toy pony analogy, though. That legit made me laugh.
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