Yes. This does not mean the blast could destroy earth 10 times
No that means that his blast was slightly stronger then a planet destroying blast. You can not like it but its still there.
And thanos has tanked hits from PG thor who was physically one shotting planetoids with no trouble. And I know they get downplayed but whether you like the black hole feats or not they are still there.
Like I said thanos stomps.
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carver's argument is cliffhanging on the notion that vegeta could have destroyed the planet with his attack back then, this is a statement from the god of hubris, but lets not take that into account
Your style of debate is very weird... kind of like when you were saying " a human can rip another human arm off". Talk to me when you get off of the imaginary wheel and debate about cartoon characters lying. Provide me some feats.
I'm not really dodging though.
It's just that the answer doesn't add anything necessary to the thread. I don't need to answer that question to forward my original points, so the answer isn't a pillar to my argument. It's a tangent from the original notion of DBZ power levels being a quantifiable measure of power in the DBZ-verse.
By all acounts it looks like you're trying to invalidate the quantifiable measure of a DBZers power purely based on the fact that you can't accurately convert his power to a definite power level...
You're taking A and insisting it's = to B.... And it isn't.
What you're asking me to do is impossible and it's comparable to this:
Example 1: A large man with a known weight of 182 lbs is given 2 large 45lb plates to carry...
We can accurately assess what the man's weight with those plates would be to a fairly certain degree.
Then there's example 2:
A man of the same relative size and shape is given two large unmarked plates. We can guess what his weight might be to a certain degree based off of what we've already seen in the past but we can't say it with any degree of certainty....
Example 1 is not then of unquantifiable measure just because example 2 is left up to speculation.... and that's exactly what your suggestion dictates.
How much less did Frieza decimate Vegeta with? Likely multitudes less... At most Frieza destroyed Vegeta using .025% of his power... If you factor into the equation he didn't power up to do it, or that Vegeta could decimate a planet using something around more than 30X less than Frieza's first form max... well....
But... at the end of the day I can only give you probabilities on the matter. What we do know with certainty is that he did use less than 1%, so at the VERY least, he could do 100% more collateral damage if that was his goal.....
Yes, this is going by Frieza's descriptions of his own power... something that IMO he proved accurately assessing his power and correcting it accordingly with Goku's Kioken.
How exactly did he become a liar with the introduction of Cell?
And if I was to give you some assessment of Thanos' probable power level based on what he's done..... Well it's not good.
As I pointed out A and B are not the same thing in this case, you're argument is flawed.
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But do you know what it does take away from a character?
Mostly, the infallibility that everyone seems to place on them. It takes away a character's credibility when they say they can do something. It establishes that, when a character says something, they can be wrong.
Superman failed to do someting he said he would? Yes, he was wrong. Thanos lost the guantlet? He was wrong. Wolverine can't cut something? He was wrong, too. Now, when all of these characters have been wrong, why do you insist that Cell, this one time, is right? Especially when he fails just like all the others. Why do you insist that Freiza is right despite being wrong before repeatedly? Just because other comic characters are wrong doesn't make Freiza or Cell automatically right.
You are right when you say it doesn't take away from a character's ability. But when that character has been wrong before, we do not simply trust that they have an ability that they say they do.
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I see you've still got nothing to prove that the villians were not arrogant braggarts, and t5hus still have nothing to prove your claims so are still using circular reasoning. and therefore your arguments are still logically invalid.
I agree with this. I don't like Cresh's debating style. That doesn't make his statements any less true or valid. Yes. He and Drax physically destroyed a planet while wrestling on it IIRC.And Thanos was fine while Drax was KO. And i'm pretty sure that was weaker pre-death thanos.
Yes. Based on the fact he can destroy a planet.
Yes. Based on the fact he can destroy a planet.
Yes. Based on the fact that he stopped the fallen one who was supposedly moving at light speed.
Now can Freiza react to mindrape?
Edit: Yeah that was pre-death thanos and it was a planet. Good job PG.
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