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If Supes and Hancock are "in the sky", then all it takes is one wizard whispering "confundus", then Supes and Hancock are done.


There is a starting point to the fight, gun goes off and the three heroes do too. What you're saying is that they'll just sit there looking around like morons when the fight starts and allow the wizards to start casting spells at their leisure. No, dude. I could very well just state "the wizards don't cast confundus, they try fiendfyre" and try and dictate the fight.

Bloodlust is just that, they're out to kill, not have tea.


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"Supes and Hancock in the sky"....Never said they were flying at supersonic speeds.


Yes, and I suppose they're just going to hang there doing nothing for the entire fight. roll eyes (sarcastic)

As soon as the fight starts Superman plows through Hogwarts at lightspeed and demolishes the place.

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The hall of prophesies will warn the wizards of the pending attack. They'll know about it long before it happens. They'll have more than enough time to plan a defense.


No it won't. See above the last page for more details.

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Now I know what you guys are saying, "ZOMG You're giving the wizards prep!!!" How? By quoting one of their powers? What if it were the Jedi and I said "The Jedi will use their precog and foresight to see what happens before it happens." What then? Would I be accused of giving the Jedi prep?


You would if the Jedi had to go to a certain place and retrieve an object which allows them to use their precog before the fight takes place in order to actually utilise it, which is the case here. Mainly because that is the very definition of prep. no expression


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Hancock takes their little sticks and shovels them up the wizards asses.


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The protection charms protect the school, completely (none of this "underground" bullshit as the shield covers Hogwarts completely.) The shields are broken by...get this...magic only. no expression

It is also invisible.

Sups is vulnerable to magic, red sun energy, and kryptonite. (In other words, a bad matchup.)

None of the fighters have the ability to see the school, as well.

This entire thread was spite, from the beginning: there is no possible way for the wizards to lose with the OP.


We should have the OP amended to remove the shield charms, time turners (and Supes ability to turn back time), and felix felicis. Remove those and it is a stomp in favor of the superhumans.


I do not understand why these threads last more than 5 pages: almost no one has been objective in this thread.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
The protection charms protect the school, completely (none of this "underground" bullshit as the shield covers Hogwarts completely.)

It is also invisible.

Sups is vulnerable to magic, red sun energy, and kryptonite.

None of the fighters have the ability to see the school, as well.

This entire thread was spite, from the beginning: there is no possible way for the wizards to lose with the OP.


We should have the OP amended to remove the shield charms, time turners (and Supes ability to turn back time), and felix felicis. Remove those and it is a stomp in favor of the superhumans.


I do not understand why these threads last more than 5 pages: almost no one has been objective in this thread.
Objectivity at it's finest. thumb up


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Originally posted by dadudemon
The protection charms protect the school, completely (none of this "underground" bullshit as the shield covers Hogwarts completely.) The shields are broken by...get this...magic only. no expression

It is also invisible.

Sups is vulnerable to magic, red sun energy, and kryptonite. (In other words, a bad matchup.)

None of the fighters have the ability to see the school, as well.

This entire thread was spite, from the beginning: there is no possible way for the wizards to lose with the OP.


We should have the OP amended to remove the shield charms, time turners (and Supes ability to turn back time), and felix felicis. Remove those and it is a stomp in favor of the superhumans.


I do not understand why these threads last more than 5 pages: almost no one has been objective in this thread.
This isn't comic supes this is movie supes. Comic supes would rape them even faster.


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Originally posted by dadudemon
The protection charms protect the school, completely (none of this "underground" bullshit as the shield covers Hogwarts completely.) The shields are broken by...get this...magic only. no expression

It is also invisible.

Sups is vulnerable to magic, red sun energy, and kryptonite. (In other words, a bad matchup.)

None of the fighters have the ability to see the school, as well.

This entire thread was spite, from the beginning: there is no possible way for the wizards to lose with the OP.


We should have the OP amended to remove the shield charms, time turners (and Supes ability to turn back time), and felix felicis. Remove those and it is a stomp in favor of the superhumans.


I do not understand why these threads last more than 5 pages: almost no one has been objective in this thread.
Sure, The Watcher sent them there to kill the wizards but forgot to allow them the to see their targets.


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Supes takes on much more experienced and powerful Magic users than the Hogwarts. Also, red sun energy and kryptonite do not exist in this universe. The Hogwarts couldnt even make them even if they tried. Supes has more experience than this school combined. Hes not going to get hit. Than theres Hancock whos immortal and bloodlusted, he wont care about smashing stuff. Hulk may get spelled but he could always thunder clap and smash.

I love how the HP fanboys make Supes act like an idiot.


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This isn't comic supes this is movie supes. Comic supes would rape them even faster.


No he wouldn't. If this was post crisis comic supes, he'd lose even harder to the wizards because a canon to canon comparison has the wizards with much more magical spells, charms, curses at their disposal in addition to MUCH better explanations on how things work.

Also, it is impossible for the Hancock team to win, ever, because Voldemort made himself imortal and the ONLY way to destroy his shit is to destroy his Horcruxes with very powerful MAGIC...none of which the Hancock team has.


So I amend my statement that removing those things would result in a landslide victory for supers and co...they can never win as long as Voldy is around: they have no way to kill him.


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The protection charms protect the school, completely (none of this "underground" bullshit as the shield covers Hogwarts completely.)


But has never shown the feats to keep a being of Superman's stature out.

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It is also invisible.


The basic knowledge rule lets the team know where it is anyway. Also Hogwarts being invisible to muggles was never mentioned in the movie to my knowledge.

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Sups is vulnerable to magic, red sun energy, and kryptonite.


Too bad Hogwarts will never get the chance to exploit said vulnerabilities.

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This entire thread was spite, from the beginning: there is no possible way for the wizards to lose with the OP.


Yes. Yes there is.

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I do not understand why these threads last more than 5 pages: almost no one has been objective in this thread.


And I suppose you are, right?


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Also, it is impossible for the Hancock team to win, ever, because Voldemort made himself imortal and the ONLY way to destroy his shit is to destroy his Horcruxes with very powerful MAGIC...none of which the Hancock team has.


Voldemorts Horcruxes are not a part of this thread nor are they in his standard equipment, ergo they're out.

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No he wouldn't. If this was post crisis comic supes, he'd lose even harder to the wizards because a canon to canon comparison has the wizards with much more magical spells, charms, curses at their disposal in addition to MUCH better explanations on how things work.



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Comic Supes RAAAAAAAAAPES this thread. Its not even funny.


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Supes takes on much more experienced and powerful Magic users than the Hogwarts. Also, red sun energy and kryptonite do not exist in this universe. The Hogwarts couldnt even make them even if they tried. Supes has more experience than this school combined. Hes not going to get hit.


Red sun energy exists...because it's just...get this...a red star.

And, you're incorrect: there's a plethora of "instant" sure hit spells/curses that the wizards have. Anyone who knew anything about HP would know that. Since most of the people against the wizards in this thread know very little of the HP-verse, that much is apparent.


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Voldemorts Horcruxes are not a part of this thread nor are they in his standard equipment, ergo they're out.




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Comic Supes RAAAAAAAAAPES this thread. Its not even funny.


Not even close.

Horcruxes are in as they exist for Voldy at the time the OP states. To remove them is to...get this...gimp one side in favor of another. Those types of situations are not allowed.


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Originally posted by marwash22
Sure, The Watcher sent them there to kill the wizards but forgot to allow them the to see their targets.
Ah, so now the heroes are granted MORE powers? Man, you REALLY hate HP.


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Does Marvel have a red star? Nope and nor does the HPU. Show me a clip from the Harry Potter movies having a red star.


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Voldemorts Horcruxes are not a part of this thread nor are they in his standard equipment, ergo they're out.


Kidding me? Hocruxes are a literally part of Voldemort. It's part of who he is.


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Not even close.

Horcruxes are in as they exist for Voldy at the time the OP states. To remove them is to...get this...gimp one side in favor of another. Those types of situations are not allowed.


Again, they're not part of his standard equipment nor are there any active Horcruxes at Hogwarts that we know of yet.

And even if Supes is prevented from permenantly finishing Voldemort off.... he's bloodlusted. All morals aside, he flys through the planet at lightspeed and blows the thing to smithereens.

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Kidding me? Hocruxes are a literally part of Voldemort. It's part of who he is.


No they aren't. That's the whole point of a Horcrux. That it isn't a part of you anymore. A Horcrux falls under the category of an object. And since it isn't a part of his standard equipment he doesn't have them in this thread.


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But has never shown the feats to keep a being of Superman's stature out.


The burden of proof is on you.

You literally cannot prove you thesis and the only evidence we have it is that it keeps out all physical and magical attacks while also nulling electronics.

The only way around it is using magic on it. (Proven in Deathly Hollows.)


This point cannot and should not be debated as it's a very silly discussion.



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The basic knowledge rule lets the team know where it is anyway. Also Hogwarts being invisible to muggles was never mentioned in the movie to my knowledge.


That changes nothing at all: I know where London is but if it were invisible and I needed to attack specific people, I would not be able to do jack shit about it: especially if those three people were protected by layers of shields that specifically prevented me from detecting, physically approaching them, or seeing them.

It was mentioned. Stop this bullshit. I can see why this thread lasted for 5 pages now: this asinine anti-potter bullshit that has lasted for far too long in the MVF. I understand that RJ can be quite frustrating in a debate, but is it really necessary to throw objectivity out the window JUST because you know RJ will support the wizards almost every thread?





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Too bad Hogwarts will never get the chance to exploit said vulnerabilities.


Too bad Superman and Co can do nothing at all, you mean. Covered this already.



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Yes. Yes there is.


No. No there is not. Covered that already.



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And I suppose you are, right?


When am I not? the only time I'm not is when I say I'm not. That is a fact.


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Again, they're not part of his standard equipment nor are there any active Horcruxes at Hogwarts that we know of yet.

And even if Supes is prevented from permenantly finishing Voldemort off.... he's bloodlusted. All morals aside, he flys through the planet at lightspeed and blows the thing to smithereens.



No they aren't. That's the whole point of a Horcrux. That it isn't a part of you anymore. A Horcrux falls under the category of an object. And since it isn't a part of his standard equipment he doesn't have them in this thread.


Because you said this that means that you do not understand what a horcrux is. A specific time frame was given. Abide by it and stop gimping.

Superman was never shown blowing up any planets in the movies. Fail.


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Does Marvel have a red star? Nope and nor does the HPU. Show me a clip from the Harry Potter movies having a red star.


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So red stars no longer exist, right? What kind of bullshit is this?

Do you know how many red stars there are in our galaxy alone?


And they magically cease to exist because they were not shown on screen.

K. If that's the case, do you realize the slippery slope that you've just created? Would like me to open a can of slippery slope pwnage on your ass?


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Red sun energy exists...because it's just...get this...a red star.

And, you're incorrect: there's a plethora of "instant" sure hit spells/curses that the wizards have. Anyone who knew anything about HP would know that. Since most of the people against the wizards in this thread know very little of the HP-verse, that much is apparent.




Not even close.

Horcruxes are in as they exist for Voldy at the time the OP states. To remove them is to...get this...gimp one side in favor of another. Those types of situations are not allowed.


We've all watched the movies that is much easier to do than reading the history of Superman comics(or even half of it). 6 movies <<<<<<<<<<< Supes history. Its apparent that you dont know shit about Supes. Or going to watch all of them soon.

Supermans movies are based on the comics. There is no red sun outside of DCU. Supes is not easily affected by magic. He will and can blitz. The magic wont hit him. Hancock also solos.


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Again, they're not part of his standard equipment nor are there any active Horcruxes at Hogwarts that we know of yet.
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Kidding me? Hocruxes are a literally part of Voldemort. It's part of who he is.


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And even if Supes is prevented from permenantly finishing Voldemort off.... he's bloodlusted. All morals aside, he flys through the planet at lightspeed and blows the thing to smithereens.



How's he gonna do that when he's vanished as a child? Nonsense for nonsense, that's what I say. He'd be killing Lois, dude. Not to mention that Hancock would ***** slap him before he had the chance.


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No they aren't. That's the whole point of a Horcrux. That it isn't a part of you anymore. A Horcrux falls under the category of an object. And since it isn't a part of his standard equipment he doesn't have them in this thread.
It is an object that houses a part of his soul. Therefore it is a part of him. He split seven pieces of his soul (himself) into the hocruxes.

Hocruxes are in every thread with Voldemort unless specified in the OP.

Deal with it.


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