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Guys, from this point on, I don't want to see Wolverine in this thread unless we're seeing Gorgon or Omega Red fighting him as a feat of some sort.

The thread is off topic to the point that it's ridiculous, and Bada and I have a list of three or four people that are dangerously close to banning. You want to show Thor's resistance to adamantium? Then please, try to use non Wolverine examples, because to do otherwise would only turn the thread back in to the shitstorm it is right now.


laughing out loud

I tried. I posted multiple impressive piercing resistance showings. You want to know what Jinzin replied back with? They aren't Wolverine or some shit.


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Due to Pr's, ruling, if you guys want to continue debating Wolverine related topics, let's do it in a battle zone.


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My interpretations? Heh.


Yeah.



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Okay, glad we agree.

Less agony, and more pain. He was going "ARGH" and such not howling like he was going to die. Yes, he nursed one wound.

Is slash another term for glancing?



There's a difference between pain and agony? Or is this just another semantics game?

Thor screamed out. Thor, a warrior born screamed out in "pain" from the damage that was delt to him. It likely wasn't insignificant, that he nursed it later suggests the same.

It is when we're discussing someone of Thor's durability levels. There's a difference in the amount of damage Wolverine will do with cuts and slashes than stabs.


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Oh yea, I forgot, Thor was in surprised or whatever. Christ.
Show me where Wolverine stabbed- oh wait you can't.



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I don't think you read the comic properly. Here you go:
http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/...olvie_thor4.jpg

Can you tell me what happened there or are you unable to read English?

Thor said that the advantage won't last forever. He changed tactics because of Wolverine's speed.

Do you understand how this is different from your posts? Do you?

It's not? no expression

"He said his durability wouldn't hold out forever, after two cuts.
He drew doubt to his durability after two cuts and suggested that in-part is what made him change tactics from strict h2h... that's what happened. "


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Due to Pr's, ruling, if you guys want to continue debating Wolverine related topics, let's do it in a battle zone.
Oh for ****'s sake, Ize already accepted that challenge.


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laughing out loud

I tried. I posted multiple impressive piercing resistance showings. You want to know what Jinzin replied back with? They aren't Wolverine or some shit.

Some of them have Thor being hit with the blunt end of an object, have swords breaking apart in the frenzy of battle but not necissarily on Thor's skin (which is a typical portrayal of old Thor comics in battle), have Thor being cut, don't have Thor being hit by ANYTHING.... What the f**k?
And yeah, it kind of matters that they aren't even adamantium blades.


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Yeah.


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There's a difference between pain and agony? Or is this just another semantics game?

Thor screamed out. Thor, a warrior born screamed out in "pain" from the damage that was delt to him. It likely wasn't insignificant, that he nursed it later suggests the same.

It is when we're discussing someone of Thor's durability levels. There's a difference in the amount of damage Wolverine will do with cuts and slashes than stabs.


A game of semantics? There is a difference between pain and agony. You feel pain when you stub your toe. You're in agony if you get your arm cut off. When someone goes "ARGHH" or grunts, they aren't in agony. It was something that caught my eye as you repeatedly use the word.

Yes, Thor's a tough cookie but he can be hurt. What is your point?

Logan never did significant damage. That doesn't automatically mean only did insignificant but the damage was definitely on the minor side.

I get that stabbing someone will do more damage than a slash. I want to know if in your back slashing and glancing blows are the same. Two very different things.


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Show me where Wolverine stabbed- oh wait you can't.


http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/...olvie_thor5.jpg

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It's not? no expression

"He said his durability wouldn't hold out forever, after two cuts.
He drew doubt to his durability after two cuts and suggested that in-part is what made him change tactics from strict h2h... that's what happened. "




I don't even....I give up.

It's right there. He said it wouldn't hold out forever not that it wouldn't hold up after a few cuts. Christ.

No. He made it quite clear why he changed tactics. Because Logan wasn't easy to hit.


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Oh for ****'s sake, Ize already accepted that challenge.


Is that supposed to negatively reflect on me somehow? How am I supposed to know he accepted a challenge? He certainly never replied to anyone of my posts with an acceptance.

Unfortunately, I don't read every page of this thread. Personal messages, they're there for a reason. I'll pm him.


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Some of them have Thor being hit with the blunt end of an object,


Yea, like what?

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have swords breaking apart in the frenzy of battle but not necissarily on Thor's skin (which is a typical portrayal of old Thor comics in battle),


I think they're might be one scan where his in the heat of battle with Asgardians.

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have Thor being cut, don't have Thor being hit by ANYTHING.... What the f**k?


Did you just make that up?

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And yeah, it kind of matters that they aren't even adamantium blades.


Yea, we've seen Thor take a slash from a weapon superior to Wolverine's claws.

Here are the scans I posted:
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Takes a full swing from Harokin’s axe to the face, and is completely unharmed.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...desUseless6.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...desUseless7.jpg

The blades of various Asgardians shatter in a battle against Thor.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...atsAsgard20.jpg

Magically enchanted Wolves cannot penetrate Thor’s skin.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...agicWolves2.jpg

A maddened Ulik’s cannot penetrate Thor’s skin.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...narokThor26.jpg

Volstagg, the lion of Asgard, swings an axe, and it simply breaks against Thor’s chest.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...narokThor34.jpg

Thor takes a full swing from the almighty Wolverine and his claws across the face. He has only paper cuts to show for it.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...eCutBarely1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...eCutBarely2.jpg

Withstands the claws of Karnivor.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...tsKarnivor2.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...tsKarnivor3.jpg
Note: Karnivor possesses enough strength and claws sharp enough to reduce the armor of the High Evolutionary himself to shreds.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...tsKarnivor1.jpg

Catches the blade of a significantly amped Mogul in mid swing and is completely unharmed.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...ulUnharmed1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...ulUnharmed2.jpg

Shrugs off a blow from Tyr’s spike laced mace to his chest.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...DefeatsTyr2.jpg

Ares strikes Thor repeatedly with his spike laced mace and Thor is for the most part unharmed.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...esandPluto1.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...esandPluto2.jpg

He then takes a slash from Pluto's axe without any visible damage.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...esandPluto7.jpg

Withstands the attacks of Hrinmeer and his magically enchanted Flame sword unharmed.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...sTheFlame16.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...sTheFlame17.jpg

He does so again.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...sTheFlame19.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...sTheFlame20.jpg

Withstands a slash from the God Killer Super Skrull and her Stormbreaker Axe across the chest without a scratch.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...GodSkrull12.jpg

Thor withstands Perrikus’ scythe unharmed, and his flesh piercing darts. Apparently even Odin succumbed to them.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...vsPerrikus3.jpg
Note: To make this even more impressive, Perrikus was even able to slash Mjolnir in half -as ridiculous as it sounds- with his scythe.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...vsPerrikus4.jpg

Withstands attacks from his scythe unharmed once again, and this Perrikus is even stronger than before.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...tsPerrikus4.jpg

Bloodaxe pounds away with his axe continuously on a depowered Masterson Thor’s face, and although his receives a bruise from the blunt force damage, he is otherwise unharmed.
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...vsBloodaxe8.jpg
http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/...vsBloodaxe9.jpg

Withstands an onslaught of attacks from the Disir.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...Thor/Disir1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...Thor/Disir2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...Thor/Disir3.jpg
Note: The Disir are extremely powerful. One of their swords was capable of slicing through Hela easily.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...Thor/Disir4.jpg


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K.



A game of semantics? There is a difference between pain and agony. You feel pain when you stub your toe. You're in agony if you get your arm cut off. When someone goes "ARGHH" or grunts, they aren't in agony. It was something that caught my eye as you repeatedly use the word.

Yes, Thor's a tough cookie but he can be hurt. What is your point?
My point is that agony is an expression of pain, the two are linked.
Is Thor acting like he stubbed his toe?
Do you think a steriotypical norseman would cry out loud from a toe stub much less Thor?
In any case, this is simply a semantics issue with you, the point is that Thor was hurt and made to cry out with a face that seems to imply pain on a higher level than a lower one.


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Logan never did significant damage. That doesn't automatically mean only did insignificant but the damage was definitely on the minor side.

I get that stabbing someone will do more damage than a slash. I want to know if in your back slashing and glancing blows are the same. Two very different things.


I can agree to the first part. Thor wasn't in grave danger by any means, but he was damaged.

Again I think it depends on the durability of the target or the effectiveness of the weapon.

Wolverine was trying to land cutting blows while capitalizing on his speed; he wasn't landing flush attacks.
I think the issue that ensued here is that while Wolverine supporters believe that Wolverine didn't hit Thor with damage as deep as he could have, Thor supporters argue as if he did and could do no worse.




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http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/...olvie_thor5.jpg
Nothing there conclusively shows me Wolverine stabbing Thor, and there's several inconsistencies indicating that it may not be the case at all... no expression



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I don't even....I give up.

It's right there. He said it wouldn't hold out forever not that it wouldn't hold up after a few cuts. Christ.

No. He made it quite clear why he changed tactics. Because Logan wasn't easy to hit.


He states his durability won't hold out forever, which takes place after two cuts... no expression

Everything that happened is in line with what I stated...

"He said his durability wouldn't hold out forever, after two cuts.
He drew doubt to his durability after two cuts and suggested that in-part is what made him change tactics from strict h2h... that's what happened. "

Because? Well, THAT'S what happened.

"Too fast. Though his stikes have failed to do any significant damage due to the thickness of my Asgardian skin... that advantage won't last forever. It doth require me to change tactics a bit."

It was a combination of both. Thor had JUST referenced his doubt to his durability before acknowledging his need to change tactics. He was referencing the speed AND his doubt to his continued assurance of durability as the reasons to him doing so...
Jesus, and you want to insult my reading ability?


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Is that supposed to negatively reflect on me somehow? How am I supposed to know he accepted a challenge? He certainly never replied to anyone of my posts with an acceptance.

Unfortunately, I don't read every page of this thread. Personal messages, they're there for a reason. I'll pm him.


Because YOU'RE the one having a discussion with him? And YOU'RE the one hell bent on a Battlezone about this issue? confused


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In an attempt to get the thread back on track, how fast would people say Gorgon actually is?

Is he on a par with say Speed Demon or is he Quicksilver speed, Northstar?

Where would people rank him?

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IMO, he's slower than all of those people.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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In an attempt to get the thread back on track, how fast would people say Gorgon actually is?

Is he on a par with say Speed Demon or is he Quicksilver speed, Northstar?

Where would people rank him?
he's not technically as fast as quicksilver or northstar, but he actually uses his speed more and doesn't job in terms of speed


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That makes it sound like Gorgon is close to their speed.....he's not.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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he's not technically as fast as quicksilver or northstar, but he actually uses his speed more and doesn't job in terms of speed


How does he use his speed more than an actual speedster?

Not saying he doesn't, just curious?

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How does he use his speed more than an actual speedster?

Not saying he doesn't, just curious?
like he uses speed when he fights and he always tries to move faster than his opponent

unlike say quicksilver, who while he can be extremely fast, still gets tagged


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Gorgon has never been tagged, are you sure about that?


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Gorgon has never been tagged, are you sure about that?
he has been tagged

my point is he doesn't get tagged from CIS...which is how quicksilver usually gets tagged by slower foes, through stupidity

gorgon's skills also make his speed seem even more formidable


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Well, Since he doesn't get tagged through CIS and IIRC Wolverine has tagged him more than once...the answer is that he's not that much faster than Wolverine.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Well, Since he doesn't get tagged through CIS and IIRC Wolverine has tagged him more than once...the answer is that he's not that much faster than Wolverine.
he was toying with logan iirc...kinda underestimating logan, so I don't think he really thought he needed to dodge much


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