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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
laughing out loudI know I said I wouldn't reply, but I couldn't stop myself.


I don't think that counts a reply anyway, you just post smilies because you had no rebuttal.


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Thor wins the majority.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't think that counts a reply anyway, you just post smilies because you had no rebuttal.


Lawlz, k. Fortunately for you, I'm having too much fun to take you seriously.

Wolverine doing consistently better than Thor against the Hulk?

The best part was the line of reasoning that Wolverine is some how superior because his beaten Namor, whose stalemated Hercules, who got the edge over Thor that one time.

That isn't crap worth replying to. Your just trying to reach a word count quota at this point.

Don't confuse me humoring you, with this actually being some sort of debate.


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If you're going to reference my posts, at least read them first.


I've read your post. "Thor's hit Gladiator and Silver Surfer! He's faster than Wolverine!"

Please.

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Want to compare feats again?


The only feat that needed to be addressed was addressed... or do need me to tell you what was actually happening in that Heimdall example again?


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If it didn't happen in one of Thor's lowest showings ever, it's never happening.


It's Thor's lowest showing ever because? Because he fought Wolverine. Please. It's not a low showing for Thor, it's an average showing for Wolverine. He got tagged by Wolverine because Wolverine is faster. Wolverine's glancing blows managed to cut him, and a direct blow would cleave right through him. That is what would happen in Thor was stupid enough to think he could engage Wolverine in melee combat.


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I like how the Wolverine side is afraid to compare speed feats.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wolverine doing consistently better than Thor against the Hulk?


You remember the last time Hulk grabbed Wolverine's hands and beat him unconscious with them? No? Me either. How about the time Hulk grabbed Thor's hand and smashed his face in with Mjolnir? Hahaha yeah, me too.

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The best part was the line of reasoning that Wolverine is some how superior because his beaten Namor, whose stalemated Hercules, who got the edge over Thor that one time.


Hercules and Thor are more or less equals in pure melee combat, with the slight edge to Hercules. Do you disagree?

Hercules and Namor are more or less equals in pure melee combat, with the slight edge to Hercules. Do you disagree?


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I like how the Wolverine side is afraid to compare speed feats.


I already posted his speed feats... go compare them if you'd like.


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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I've read your post. "Thor's hit Gladiator and Silver Surfer! He's faster than Wolverine!"

Please.


I get it, you haven't read my posts. It's okay. Big words and common sense scare you.

I also find it amusing that the logic your frowning at is very similar to the shit the Wolverine brigade is trying to pull.

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The only feat that needed to be addressed was addressed... or do need me to tell you what was actually happening in that Heimdall example again?


I didn't mention the Heimdall scene in this thread. How did you try to spin that one? It's superior to anything I've ever seen Wolverine do.

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It's Thor's lowest showing ever because? Because he fought Wolverine. Please. It's not a low showing for Thor, it's an average showing for Wolverine. He got tagged by Wolverine because Wolverine is faster. Wolverine's glancing blows managed to cut him, and a direct blow would cleave right through him. That is what would happen in Thor was stupid enough to think he could engage Wolverine in melee combat.


Thor's lowest showing ever? Not quite. One of his lowest? Without a doubt.

Wolverine is not faster. And still on that glancing blow crap are we? What do you call Logan jumping Thor and stabbing Thor's back?


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@Rage.

Regarding Adamantium. Are you arguing it can't cut Thor period or that Logan isn't strong enough to make anything other then superficial cuts?

Regarding speed. You're saying that Thor on average is quicker than Wolverine and the like?

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The second one. I made it clear a while back ago.

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You remember the last time Hulk grabbed Wolverine's hands and beat him unconscious with them? No? Me either. How about the time Hulk grabbed Thor's hand and smashed his face in with Mjolnir? Hahaha yeah, me too.


Let the Battle Begin? Damn, you really are desperate. And one semi cannon memory sequence out of nearly a dozen battles hardly qualifies as consistently doing better than Thor.

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Hercules and Thor are more or less equals in pure melee combat, with the slight edge to Hercules. Do you disagree?


Yes, I disagree completely. Thor > Hercules physically and a writer tossing a bone for Hercules in terms of skill because he felt sorry for him in one fight out of a dozen hardly proves anything.

They've fought before and after, encountered other opponents etc, with Hercules at best being Thor's equal and Thor easily being Hercules' equal.

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Hercules and Namor are more or less equals in pure melee combat, with the slight edge to Hercules. Do you disagree?


On average? Yes.

How about we stop using Hercules and this A, B, C, D logic and compare Namor and Thor directly?


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Not enough for a shut out in a pure melee fight. He'll take the majority just like Hercules does against Ares, but it will still be a fight.


The only time Ares was able to fight Thor was when he had his strength tripled. Other times he got stomped.


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The second one. I made it clear a while back ago.


thumb up I can dig it.

@srank.

What's the prob with that? Thor's hard durability is greater then say, Hulk, so it stands to reason he'd be harder to cut in any meaningful way no?

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Lol, just wait. I think at best they should do about as much damage, as say, the Disir:
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Withstands an onslaught of attacks from the Disir.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...Thor/Disir2.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...Thor/Disir3.jpg
Note: The Disir are extremely powerful. One of their swords was capable of slicing through Hela easily.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/...Thor/Disir4.jpg


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but that's using a total extreme which isn't the case here

OR's tentacles aren't anywhere near that long
It's ranged, but not a missile attack. That might be a better way to say it.


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gorgon alone will kill thor 10/10 every single time by blitzing and cutting his throat and hands now you prove i am wrong


Lol.

And further more, concerning Ares a few pages back...

Yeah, Ares isn't even in Thor's league if we take into account predominantly low showings of Thor as a whole. Ares was described as "Wolverine meets Thor" by Bendis, but he's incredibly far from that mark.


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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I get it, you haven't read my posts. It's okay. Big words and common sense scare you.


roll eyes (sarcastic)

Please, enlighten me.

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I also find it amusing that the logic your frowning at is very similar to the shit the Wolverine brigade is trying to pull.


They aren't even remotely similar. Omega Red and Gorgon are irrevocably tied to Wolverine, the notion that they are Wolverine, only better is essential to their characters. On the other hand, Silver Surfer and Gladiator have no ties to Thor to speak of other than the fact that they have fought from time to time. Apples and Oranges.



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I didn't mention the Heimdall scene in this thread. How did you try to spin that one? It's superior to anything I've ever seen Wolverine do.


The Heimdall scan is a standard "too fast for the eye to fallow scene," which Wolverine - and all streets - have several of. The narration doesn't say "too fast for Heimdall" to fallow, that is just typical wishful fantasy from Thor fanboys. It says "the eye." It is merely a point of reference for the reader, that Thor is capable of moving faster than they, the reader, could see. Heimdall himself did see the attack, and in fact parried/blocked it... it was just too powerful and the force of the impact shattered his ear drums.

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Thor's lowest showing ever? Not quite. One of his lowest? Without a doubt.


Please. Other than he fighting like an ass - which he does 9/10 anyway - there was nothing below average about Thor in that showing, you only think that because you have no clue what Wolverine is capable off. If Thor was stupid enough to engage Wolverine in melee combat and use Mjolnir to club shit like he does most of the time, he would get cut up... and that's what happened.

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Wolverine is not faster. And still on that glancing blow crap are we? What do you call Logan jumping Thor and stabbing Thor's back?


Wolverine is faster. Wolverine jumped on Thor's back. There is no indication that he attempted to stab him, or even that his claws were out at the time. If he had tried too, he would have and the fight would have had a different outcome.

Now off to half price Tuesday at the movie theater because I want to see The Adjustment Bureau but it doesn't look good enough to pay full price!


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It's ranged, but not a missile attack. That might be a better way to say it.

there pretty long.

What are you two debating?

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Lol.

And further more, concerning Ares a few pages back...

Yeah, Ares isn't even in Thor's league if we take into account predominantly low showings of Thor as a whole. Ares was described as "Wolverine meets Thor" by Bendis, but he's incredibly far from that mark.


Thor is neutered in this thread. In comics he might be >>>> Ares and Herc because of his powers, but this is pure melee. In pure melee they are all essentially interchangeable (with Ares not being quite as powerful as either of them).


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Thor is neutered in this thread. In comics he might be >>>> Ares and Herc because of his powers, but this is pure melee. In pure melee they are all essentially interchangeable (with Ares not being quite as powerful as either of them).




Thor, even neutered as he is, still crushes the team.


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Lol.

And further more, concerning Ares a few pages back...

Yeah, Ares isn't even in Thor's league if we take into account predominantly low showings of Thor as a whole. Ares was described as "Wolverine meets Thor" by Bendis, but he's incredibly far from that mark.
ares is basically a downgraded version of wolverine...inferior in every aspect except strength


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