See, I make excuses which paint Wolverine feats in a bad light and I get called a troll, retarded or accused of failing; whereas the Wolverine side makes excuses which paint Wolverine in a good light or Thor in a bad light and the cheerleaders act like they’re making good points.
It’s kind of sad how easy it is to get people to display their double standards.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
It's not a double standard. It's just what's happened.
Wolverine hit Thor with slashes; slashes have been referenced as less damaging than "strait-shots", which makes sense (For instance, I can't do much damage trying to cut you with a butter knife but I bet I can stab you with one).
We saw that those slashes did enough significant damage to cause Thor to cry out in agony, AND have him admit that even his durability would fail after only recieving two slashing blows that where penetrating his armor.
The bottem line is that Wolverine never hit him with a full on stab on panel... despite what speculations have been made about what we CAN'T see.
Wolverine tanking full on C100 blows to the face is something he's been doing his whole career. It isn't a byproduct of rolling with punches or characters holding back and that can be flat out proven using Savage Hulk as a basis who has pounded a defensless Wolverine literally into the ground only for Wolverine to get back up.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
On-panel Thor only took slight damage from an anrgy Wolverine.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
For someone that was "seriously injured" he sure didn't seem to be in a hurry to seek medical attention.
Makes sense.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
There's a difference between what you're doing and what others are doing.
You're asking people to prove points that are proven through empirical means.
As in: we know 1+1=2 and have it stated, and you're asking us to prove that 2-1=1 just because it isn't. It's redardation, insanity, or trolling.
The issue with Thor comes down to a few things.
1. durability: There's a few instances where his durability holds out against claws, axes, and swords... none of them comparible to Wolverine's adamantium weaponry. There's also instances where he gets completely owned by blades that are also not comparible to Adamantium weaponry.
The funny thing, Wolverine's claws blocked a weapon that nearly killed Thor through cutting/stabbing.... but Thor fans are going to try and say Thor can't be stabbed/cut by Wolverine in spite of what the fight stated, because he's stood up to other things that aren't those claws? Sweet.
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2. Thor's speed: This is HUGELY problematic because Thor has speed feats which are either being overblown beyond reason or they're feats for Mjolnir's capbilities that are being projected on Thor.
There's plenty of people from "my side" that are willing to have a reasonable debate here, but you asking people to prove that bleedouts tax Wolverine's healing factor, or what induces a bleedout, or whatever other nonesense you use to fillibuster the conversation is hardly reasonable.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Enough with this glancing blow and slashes crap. You guys love referencing Thor's comments as if they were gospel. Now how about we take the clear intentions of the comic and apply them? Wolverine was doing superficial damage because of Thor's durability and not because he was landing glancing blows.
At one point, he stabbed Thor in the back. And yes that's what happened despite the idiocy.
No that's not what he said. This is not the first time I've seen you phrase it that way. Motherf*cker, are you sure you're reading the comic properly?
He didn't say that Wolverine would start doing significant damage from then on if that's what you're implying. He said that eventually Logan would start doing real damage.
And lawlz at the double standard.
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He didn't seek it after the fight either, he just stood there talking with Wolverine and acting like the damage was minor.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Interesting, so people can use the way Thor acted to prove he was seriously injured, but I can’t use the Thor acted to prove he wasn’t.
Hello double standard, it’s nice to see you again.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Oh we did but considering some of your... interpretations...
Okay, why don't we?
Wolverine WAS doing "superficial" damage, the "superficial" nature of the damage was accredited to Thor's durability.
Wolverine WAS doing damage though, enough to cut through Thor's armor, make him cry out in agony, and bleed, as well as nurse himself after the fight ended.
Wolverine WAS doing damage with slashes, that's what we see happening on panel.
Thor ALSO admitted that his durability wouldn't hold out after only 2 "superficial" blows had landed in part requiring him to change tactics.
Sorry, that's speculation. Nothing on panel confirms this as truth "despite the idiocy."
He said his durability wouldn't hold out forever, after two cuts.
He drew doubt to his durability after two cuts and suggested that in-part is what made him change tactics from strict h2h... that's what happened.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
No one said he was "seriously injured" we're just saying the damage was as inconsequential as you people are insisting.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Guys, from this point on, I don't want to see Wolverine in this thread unless we're seeing Gorgon or Omega Red fighting him as a feat of some sort.
The thread is off topic to the point that it's ridiculous, and Bada and I have a list of three or four people that are dangerously close to banning. You want to show Thor's resistance to adamantium? Then please, try to use non Wolverine examples, because to do otherwise would only turn the thread back in to the shitstorm it is right now.
Off-hand I can't think of any instances where he's been hurt badly enough to seek medical attention, including the Wolverine fight.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.