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Since when is TK magic?

'However, natural super abilities and or super powers the characters R born with R usable.'

Then Link gets his effing sword beams. Unless Frisky is enforcing a double standard?

Eitherway, TK won't save Seph. Hypersonic shield toss >

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They have their natural abilities as long as they don't require outside sources 2 use them.

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Since when can Link throw his sheild that fast?

Also Seph can teleport.

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How is TK through magic not magic?

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How is it TK 'through magic'?

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They have their natural abilities as long as they don't require outside sources 2 use them.

So Link does have sword beams, since that isn't weapon dependant.

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Since when can Link throw his sheild that fast?

Also Seph can teleport.

He can't use teleportation to avoid something moving faster than he can react to. big grin

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That don't answer my question noob.

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From my understanding, TK has always been a term that is applied to the movement of anything without touching it, whether you did it with your mind or with magic. Kind of like how some people say Kleenex for a tissue.

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multi-gigajoule levels of strength + projectile + we've seen him swing fast enough to swat lightning down/intercept it in multiple games + this is composite Link so every game counts = ????

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From my understanding, TK has always been a term that is applied to the movement of anything without touching it, whether you did it with your mind or with magic. Kind of like how some people say Kleenex for a tissue.

That doesn't explain why TK would be classified as magic rather than a natural ability.

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multi-gigajoule levels of strength + projectile + we've seen him swing fast enough to swat lightning down/intercept it in multiple games + this is composite Link so every game counts = ????

Except...... he hasn't swatted lightning down.

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Plus OBD says Sephiroth is Hypersonic. 'people way below him have bullet timed against machine guns'

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That doesn't explain why TK would be classified as magic rather than a natural ability.

Except...... he hasn't swatted lightning down.

Plus OBD says Sephiroth is Hypersonic. 'people way below him have bullet timed against machine guns'

Link's reflected lightning back to Ganon ect, art, blah blah. Barinade, Ghot, ect...

Sephiroth's best reaction feat is beating someone with super-sonic reactions, this doesn't necessarily make him hypersonic, nor will it allow him to avoid something above base hypersonic speed.

OBD also says Kain is hypersonic. erm

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Not lightning blah blah don't dodge it anything from them etc etc..

You don't need to be as fast as something to avoid it, especially when you have teleportation. And you still havn't proven he can throw it that fast.

OBD also says he has Skyscraper level durability as well.

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Because he uses magic to move these objects with his mind?

I didn't know tele was a word that referred specifically to psychic power. But-- oh, hang on. I got a call on my mindphone.

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Not lightning blah blah don't dodge it anything from them etc etc..

You don't need to be as fast as something to avoid it, especially when you have teleportation. And you still havn't proven he can throw it that fast.

OBD also says he has Skyscraper level durability as well.

You need to be aware of it. Sephiroth won't be since the shield will be outside his over-wanked reaction time.

I can't recall a single durability feat for Seph. erm

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Because he uses magic to move these objects with his mind?

Proof he uses magic?

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How about some proof he uses his mind? After all, you did make the claim he uses TK.

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....___
v=/2K
../..m

K = 4500000000
m = 5

v = 42426.406871193 meter/second

Guess how fast that is? Over mach 100.

Good luck, Seph.

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TK isn't really a "natural" ability, it is supernatural and is more or less "magic".

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How about some proof he uses his mind? After all, you did make the claim he uses TK.

Telekinesis is just another word for Psychokinesis which literally means "mind-movement", hence why the vast majority of its incarnations are mental-based. Also theres no outward sign of it being magic in FF7, which is notable since materia in FF7 always has a glow of some kind to it. That and his enormous will-power suggest superhuman mental powers.

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....___
v=/2K
../..m

K = 4500000000
m = 5

v = 42426.406871193 meter/second

Guess how fast that is? Over mach 100. Good luck, Seph.

Yes, because i know what that means.

That also explains why when he throws a Deku nut it cores through his opponents like ohwaititdoesn't.

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TK isn't really a "natural" ability, it is supernatural and is more or less "magic".

FF7 requires people use materia for their magic. I see no idication Sephiroth used materia whatsoever.

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Mar 29th, 2011 08:23 PM

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Yes, because i know what that means.

Take Link's strength, apply it to an object, see how fast it moves. stick out tongue

Still slower than lightning, but too fast for Sephiroth.

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