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I think I've waited my whole life for this article...big grin

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/104...he_defence.html

It just stole every thought about the whole thing I've had right out of my head. I know everyone else will highly disagree, but I found that lone person out there who seems to view things as I do. lol


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I think I've waited my whole life for this article...big grin

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/104...he_defence.html

It just stole every thought about the whole thing I've had right out of my head. I know everyone else will highly disagree, but I found that lone person out there who seems to view things as I do. lol


Me too.


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That guy is the biggest Lucas fanboy I have ever seen...

"George Lucas is a brilliant filmmaker, who breathed life into cinema and has given great joy to millions of people the world over (and continues to do so). A feat matched by no other filmmaker, living or dead."

Really? The guy is an idiot.

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That guy is the biggest Lucas fanboy I have ever seen...

"George Lucas is a brilliant filmmaker, who breathed life into cinema and has given great joy to millions of people the world over (and continues to do so). A feat matched by no other filmmaker, living or dead."

Really? The guy is an idiot.


I know, right?

George Lucas can be credited with bringing us Star Wars, and with it a new age of cinematic special effects. He's far from brilliant. He got lucky with the first Star Wars. He's not really responsible for ESB or ROTJ. The prequels are okay, but far from great. There is potential in there, buried beneath crap.

The majority of his other work is just him being a writer or a producer. Being a producer, he's best at, but even his best is subpar.


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Originally posted by ares834
That guy is the biggest Lucas fanboy I have ever seen...

"George Lucas is a brilliant filmmaker, who breathed life into cinema and has given great joy to millions of people the world over (and continues to do so). A feat matched by no other filmmaker, living or dead."

Really? The guy is an idiot.


Well said.

You're either a fanboy, or a blatant hater....

I know which category you fall into.

And if we say Lucas isn't really responsible for ESB and ROTJ, then that's like saying he isn't responsible for INDIANA JONES either. I'm glad that one's been settled. Now we can stop blaming him for Kingdom of the Crystal skull, even though Lucas didn't write the script, but came up with the story. Oh yeah...much like ESB and ROTJ....but he wasn't responsible for those films, so we can't hold him responsible for INDY 4.

That's one debate solved. lol Either way, there would be no Empire or ROTJ without ANH...the brainchild of Lucas. I'm sure Lucas got lucky with the binary sunset scene too that everyone raves about. The "It's so inspiring, I feel every single emotion Luke's going through there" comments I come across all over the internet.

I'm glad Lucas wasn't responsible for ROTJ either, cause that one sucked.


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Well said.

You're either a fanboy, or a blatant hater....

I know which category you fall into.


Yep. Because I'm resonable enough to realize that Lucas isn't the most brilliant filmaker ever I'm a hater...

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Originally posted by Sith Master X
I think I've waited my whole life for this article...big grin

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/104...he_defence.html

It just stole every thought about the whole thing I've had right out of my head. I know everyone else will highly disagree, but I found that lone person out there who seems to view things as I do. lol


I agree with the article as well, almost word by word


I love the PT, for all it's faults, I found them enjoyable, but I don't think they're better than the OT, not close

The first movie I remember watching was Empire and then ROTJ (I must have been around 7 or 8) I love the ewoks back them, It wasn't until I was 12 and heard about the SE (1996) that my love as a fan was truly ignited, that was the first time I saw ANH, I used to rent the movies many times until the next year when the SE came out and I was able to experience it on a big screen... and then I also loved the SE.

It doesn't matter to me that PT sucked, I loved TPM as much as I loved ROTJ...even though I hated the first time I saw AOTC, I hated the thought of watching that movie again, I've since warmed up to it (still it's the worse of all the PT movies), I hate having to watch Hayden instead of Shaw (I cringed everytime I see that) and once I have the BR, I will hate everytime I have to hear Vader shriek.

... but despite all those changes, I still have my memories of me watching the movies on my VCR, and then experience it for the first time in a big screen, my childhood memories are still as I remember (I never understood the "raping memories" expression no expression)
... anyways, I can still pop in the O OT on DVD any time big grin

I said it once before, I think this is his work, his property and sadly he can change it the way he sees, just as he can give the guidelines about what could be created by others... and that's the truth

Lucas isn't a good director, I think every actor that worked with him have said that, he doesn't know how to direct people, but he is a visionary... he just need people around him to help him realize that vision... too bad it seems the people around him now are too afraid to tell him when he's going too far... he needs someone like Kershner sad


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Originally posted by Sith Master X
I think I've waited my whole life for this article...big grin

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/104...he_defence.html

It just stole every thought about the whole thing I've had right out of my head. I know everyone else will highly disagree, but I found that lone person out there who seems to view things as I do. lol


I don't get it. All this guy does is rant against the ranters. Which is justified.

I think he overlooked two major issues which prolly sums up the main gripe of fans, which then gets worded in ourageous ways:

1. Lucas does some minor changes (like sound, blinking eyes, add a tidbit scene here and there), that's all fine. But character changes??? That's quite a serious change. And he does that with greedo shooting first and Darth Vader suddenly yelling NOOOO in ROTJ. True, it doesn't really change the stories, but it is strange... and not in these two cases a better alteration.
2. Lucas is keeping a really good tranfers from us of the originals. Now this guy argues that we already have it. But I must say, I think the best version of the OT I have is the last cleaned up VHS release prior to the 1997 SE's (it looks crispier than the DVD version). After that Lucas says that version doesn't exist anymore. Now, I wouldn't say Lucas is raping my childhood, but he is raping the historical record. The current versions are not the ones that made movie history, these versions cash in on the ones that did.

So I don't mind Lucas changing his films, go ahead. But if you pretend to make a Complete Saga Box in the spirit of the Alien Anthology... MAKE a Complete Saga in the spirit of the Alien Anthology INCLUDING the originals. They didn't...

Coppola restored The Godfather in it's original look, as well as Apocalypse Now (in both the REDUX and the theatrical version). Spielberg made an SE of ET but also added the original. Blade Runner had ALL versions, including the mysterious Work print (still the same story, yet some scenes are quite different - die hard fans WANT to see it and they finally got it, and it was a TREAT).. So why is Lucas being so stubborn keeping the originals from us, and why doesn't he explain that to us? We get these wondeful books like The Making of Star Wars and The Making of The Empire Strikes Back (and hopefully The Making of ROTJ in two years)... it's all so contradictory. And his silence about it kinda suggests he's some evil Emperor of the Lucasfilm Empire himself... That is what I don't like about it... there's a certain arrogance.

But other than that... I AM enjoying the Blu Rays.


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Originally posted by Sith Master X
Well said.

You're either a fanboy, or a blatant hater....

I know which category you fall into.

And if we say Lucas isn't really responsible for ESB and ROTJ, then that's like saying he isn't responsible for INDIANA JONES either. I'm glad that one's been settled. Now we can stop blaming him for Kingdom of the Crystal skull, even though Lucas didn't write the script, but came up with the story. Oh yeah...much like ESB and ROTJ....but he wasn't responsible for those films, so we can't hold him responsible for INDY 4.

That's one debate solved. lol Either way, there would be no Empire or ROTJ without ANH...the brainchild of Lucas. I'm sure Lucas got lucky with the binary sunset scene too that everyone raves about. The "It's so inspiring, I feel every single emotion Luke's going through there" comments I come across all over the internet.

I'm glad Lucas wasn't responsible for ROTJ either, cause that one sucked.


Lucas came up with the story. But not the final script. He basically gave them the outline.

Same with all of the Indiana Jones movies. He's involved with these hit movies, but not as much as you'd like to give him credit to. Yeah, praise the guy for coming up with the story, but thank the actual writers for not giving us super cheesy lines like you'd find in the PT.


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Very true.


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thanks darthmaul1!

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Useless bump of the day goes to...the new guy!


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Yaay..


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