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One thing I will say, people may argue the percentage here on Spider-Man's speed over Wolverine's, but this is the only place where it's argued he isn't faster. Every other Wolverine fan I know, even the die hard ones have always said Spider-Man is a good deal faster. It's only on here that I've ever seen it argued. Real life included. That just hit me.
I'd say on average he isn't as fast as either of the others - but he has one feat I can think of that makes him far faster than they are - the microsecond one, which might aswell be considered PIS since it's not in line with the historical portrayal of the character.
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If were talking about street leveled characters pulling off bullet dodging feats, it could also be taken as an Agility feat.Back in the days of the Marvel Series 2 cards, characters had a rating in the Stamina and Agility department.Here's how speed and agility is differentiated from each other.
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I remember Spiderman having the most insane Agility rating.I think he was rated 7/7.Which is why Spiderman can do insane dodging movements while in the air and pulling off agility attacks.I usually use this as a way to KO the Spiderman speed blitzing Masterson Thor since its more of a combat agility feat then a combat speed feat.This makes people hard pressed to prove Flash and Superman have the same quality of agility as Spiderman have.And since its Masterson Thor, its more likely that Masterson doesn't know how to deal with agility based Characters.So this boils down more to agility.Wolverine,Batman and especially Spiderman will be more combat agile than Thor.But Thor will be faster than the three in terms of who has speed.
As does Batman. And Batgirl. And Daredevil. And..well, you get the point.
As illogical and stupid it may be, street levelers have been shown to handle bullet-speed, and not aim-speed. It's the equivalent of top tiers going into blackholes, and then having problems against random strongmen. Why?
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Of course he could've tagged him, the point is Batman is a character whose speed is categorically said to be peak human but he has feats matching or surpassing the supposedly super speed Wolverine.
The point is, just because they visually look impressive doesn't mean that they're an indication of blatant super speed of any kind.
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Something that is far beyond what a "human at max potential" would ever be able to do.
Daredevil might sense the person squeezing the trigger and move, Batman and the others anticipating it and moving just out of the way is one thing, but being able to see a bullet coming and move means the bullet is either really slow in comics, or it is pis.
Bullets and "lazurs" are the ultimate jobbers in comics.
How is SM faster than Masterson Thor? The guy saw a guy shoot aa someone 50feet away so he tracked the bullet and intercepted the it. One of the best bullet time feats i've seen.
Character shielding, an inevitable issue with a never ending continuity.
When comparing a high end superhuman like Thor whose 600 pound body should feel like a feather to him due to his strength, you have to give him the benefit of the doubt against metas in the speed stakes.
Someone posted a scan where Thor quickly shattered the sound barrier with a swing of Mjlonir. His hand speed alone should be too much for these guys in a h2h scenario.
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More of striking speed. Not quite reflex and agility speed
I've also made the case in the past with body weight and strength. Which is why Hulk can run so fast and Spider-Man can launch so high. Strength does play a role in it. Thor throwing his hammer and hanging to it might be somewhat similar.
Bullet "dodging" is done for the rule of cool, and bullets and lasers job in comics.
Yeah, I don't think the writers take those feats as seriously as the fans. You get the feeling they're treated as par for the course with street levelers and low metas, where evasion is critical to survival.
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Yea, it's more for the coolness. Although it is generally described as "aim" dodging to make it more plausible. Scoobless did make a thread on it some years back.
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