If Hugh Hefner was a paranoid super scientist who could create universes, time machines, and dooms day devices before he has his morning coffee, and routinely crossed dimensions to confer with his alternate selves for ideas, then you might be on to something.
Anyway, they all seemed pretty shocked when Wolverine crashed the meeting and revealed that Reed was an impostor. No reason to think the security would have been lower than normal.
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Sure there is, not that it matters since he didn't sneak in....Sue caught him on the monitors.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Dude, pulling the equalization card is something I don't see you being able to justify. Not if you read the crossover. Fairness or butchering a character to make it a fight was not an issue in that crossover.
Like I said, earlier, that's about what I'd expect in a comic if Thor battled Superman or one of his clones. Advantage illustrated, but it's not enough that they can't be hit.
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
Yeah..Batman stealthed his way into The Spectre's citadel in volume 4. lol. None of Spectre's mystical defenses, or any of the number of heros there noticed him until he was already gone. Hilarious.
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True on the Flash part
I agree that Superman at his best should have no problems detecting the Batman. Even then though Batman does stealth against the heavy hitters more often, it's part of being in the DC with the heavy hitters. I actually haven't seen that particular instance, but it turned out about what I'd expect, one character moving out of the way and trading hits, etc.
It happens even in universe. The problem is crossover matches are big sells and they aren't going to make one character look too bad.
Don't see what the big deal was in saying that, it's completely true.
If Superman and Thor fought on panel, it would be a more or less even back and forth. If Superman used his speed he should have little problem beating Thor, but with equal speed Thor's other powers and mjolnir should give him a pretty solid majority... so instead the both fight like bruisers.
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Like I said, on paper, Superman should have a huge speed advantage, but in practice? Busiek showed the speed advantage similar to what I'd expect most writer would if they wrote the battle. Not too different from Thor's encounters with super clones.
The way you...phrased, annoyed me a bit I guess. I see where you're coming from but I don't think Busiek was purposefully writing Superman down or anything.
You mean equalization in general for crossovers? That's fair enough I guess. But for JLA/Avengers, being "equal" was not a big concern I'd argue.
Eh, we go too far sometimes. We'll end up as a second CBR if it gets worse. It's either Thor's not fast enough to fight Superman or Superman's not powerful/versatile enough to fight Thor. We don't end up having battles.
Batman sneaking up on Superman and then likewise vanishing on him is one of those things that never fails to make me laugh no matter how often I see it in comics or animation. It's just ridiculous. But it has become a standard.
In this case it wasn't Sue just seeing him as such, it was that Wolverine did actually set off an "intruder alert" alarm which alerted her.
The thought of Wolverine with just his claws and regular powers and without any equipment somehow "sneaking" past super-advanced security just by being extra "sneaky" also makes me laugh. He was actually shown walking with the sneaky stance (walking crouched with arms bent and hands out flat in front of him) when he set the alarm off. Pretty funny.