in general, I'd imagine something akin to bulletdodging, where it is safe to infer that the writers are saying "look, wolverine is faster than cyclops", not necessarily "ok, back in issue 56 we said Cyclops' eye beams are X mph, therefore this means wolverine is Y fast"
Bill is also a cyborg which means that he is "different" from Thor.
Bill and Thor does not share feats... its just that simple. They are not the same and they are physically different in so many ways that its pointless for them to even be used in the same sentence.
I forgot. You think Thor's at his very best, like what, peak human? Lawlz.
Haha what the f*ck? No one's going to be using Bill's feats for Thor -unless it's Skrank or something- but please don't try and pretend Bill's cyborg form lends him some sort of advantage over Thor physically. Heat has less negative effect on Bill, that is his one and only advantage over Thor. His not faster, his not stronger, nor is he a better fighter. So stop with the bullshit.
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I forgot, you live in a fantasy realm where Thor actually has speed feats. Top end streets have noticeably better speed feats than Thor. Speedwise, Thor is Hulk, and Spider-man would dance around him like a statue.
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Doesn't seem weird that the God of thunder and lightning has combat speed and reaction times lower than any b-list street leveller? That he is super in every single catagory EXCEPT reaction time? And that doesn't sound bogus?
But i wont argue, this isn't about what he SHOULD be like, it's about what his FEATS say he is like. So for the Record Cassandra Cain is Faster than Silver Surfer just because, and she is faster than wonder woman because dancing in gunfire > deflecting with yur hands (wrists)?
Both lizard and Puma have been stated as faster and vermin been stated as fast.
Wolverine has foughten and dodge carnage to. He also foughten venom 3 times. eddie twice and both times not only match his speed but stalemated him.
This is just 100% wrong and founded upon your ignorance of wolverine. fact. Wolverine is a superhuman. He not some human with crazy feats. He is superhuman been stated implied and referenced numerous times.
Yea spiderman thing is his speed yes, and who was wolverine designed after again? oh that right spiderman, Oh wait what is one of his main attributes and was show cased he his first appearances? speed.
Spiderman does not have better ones at all. I play this game with you and you have never been able to prove that.
what does wolverine saying spiderman can break his neck have to do with speed?
Your ability to dismiss everything wolverine does is astounding.
oh so now he wins becuase of plot device? And again your wrong. Why do you state things as fact when you clearly dont read any of his comics?
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They would all beat Spiderman do asside from Goblin, who would not beat wolverine either.
Omega red would beast parker as would other of wolverines rogue..
Am I supose to care what you and some random kmc came up with ina thread I never went it? yea I dont at all. And you have no idea what your talking about. Honestly you dont read wolverine at all and yet you make these statemates as if your some authority on the matter, and your not at all. I dont pull this shit ever and I own thousands I spiderman comics.
your point wrong. There is no significant gap in there speed. You can pretend all you like but it just not true.
Not really at all. You just dismiss everything and anything wolverine does. But fact is if you looked at what he done with spiderman against spiderman by him self against spidermans rogues and vice versa it is extremely easy to tell that they are very close in speed.
Its all about feats. Show Wondy surpassing that then you would have an argument. Same with Thor, show some consistency on his end as well and it would aid on this topic.
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One thing though S-Rank. I know we can't place a good measure on Thor's combat speed since he doesn't rely on it the same as Lower level characters. But does implying he's slower than peak human because of his lack of "feats" seem fair?