As I said Wolverine is pretty durable something holds him together that is pretty tough. Otherwise it wouldn't matter if his bones were coated in Adamantium the joints wouldn't be strong enough to keep him from losing limbs.
Whether it is from the Admantium operation or not I don't care. The point is that Claws obviously move around and aren't fixated on something that is incapable of being moved.
Thor needs to move Mjolnir to conjure lightning, just as he needs to swing Mjolnir in some fashion to fly.
He won't be able to move here at all. They'll be 600,000-800,000 tons of force against his armor and helm holding him in place and crushing him. He'll shit himself 10 out of 10 times.
He can conjure a tornado, and technically he can remain airborne without using his Hammer to propel himself forward. As he did with the Destroyer he was flying while batting away the Destroyer's gazer beams
The only thing he'll be conjuring will be a fart, just prior to shitting himself once Magneto begins to put on the pressure of hundreds of thousands of tons.
Also, iirc in Thor, he swung his hammer in a circular fashion while being at the center of it to get the tornado up to speed, before that is was little more than a mild wind.
You clearly see the funnel form before he gets away from the Destroyer. He used his hammer swing to intensify it yeah but than again it was the Destroyer and eric is just a frail old man.
You can clearly see that the tornado grew big even before Thor reached the top of it to start swinging his hammer that debris was already getting swirled up into it.
And the Destroyer was at the eye of the tornado, which we know is far less volatile than the outskirts were Portman was. Imagine that. Early stages of Thor-tornado is nothing, unless you're a paper bag.
Thor's never shown the durability to withstand something like 800,000 tons of pressure/force.
Correct, Thor could easily one shot Magneto to hammer, lightning, fist or headbutt. He needs to be able to move first, he doesn't have that luxury here.
Watch the Thor movie, they seem to be all enchanted. Granted, it's not a proven thing, but there's more proof of them being enchanted than there is that they aren't. The knives appear at will in his hand, they are surrounded by a blue colored charge. They disappear when they hit their targets. Now in the Avengers movie, Loki's dagger didn't disappear after Thor took it out of himself, but then if Loki's capable of making enchanted daggers, why would he carry around normal daggers?
Thor's hammer is enchanted. Odin's spear is enchanted. Sif's spear seems to have some magical properties (elongating at will). Hogun's mace seems to develop spikes without any mechanical means. Loki's staff is magical or at least cosmic.
And then you're gonna tell me that it's not plausible that his daggers aren't enchanted/magical/cosmic in nature as well?
Like I said, it's not 100% proven, but if you follow logic and what we've seen of Loki during the two movies then it would be silly to assume that they don't have any magical/enchanted properties.
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Actually after watching that vid I'm reminded that Thor's armor actually IS enchanted, movie version anyway. You see how he can call on his armor whenever he has the power of mjolnir and it just magically appears on him? Well, no normal armor can do that.
And even if Mags could control his armor, what's to stop Thor from willing his armor to disappear? The metal parts anyway. His armor looks mostly built of leather. So all he needs to do is will his arm scale mail away which will make him look like he mostly did in the avengers.
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