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Actually after watching that vid I'm reminded that Thor's armor actually IS enchanted, movie version anyway. You see how he can call on his armor whenever he has the power of mjolnir and it just magically appears on him? Well, no normal armor can do that.

And even if Mags could control his armor, what's to stop Thor from willing his armor to disappear? The metal parts anyway. His armor looks mostly built of leather. So all he needs to do is will his arm scale mail away which will make him look like he mostly did in the avengers.


Thor's never willed his armor to disappear. He lost his armor after his father declared him not worthy of Mjolnir and he regained it when he became worthy again and reclaimed Mjolnir.

So if you're going with "Thor can make his armor magically disappear", then I'm adding 'by making himself not worthy and losing his powers.' Magneto stomps harder.


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Thor's never willed his armor to disappear. He lost his armor after his father declared him not worthy of Mjolnir and he regained it when he became worthy again and reclaimed Mjolnir.

So if you're going with "Thor can make his armor magically disappear", then I'm adding 'by making himself not worthy and losing his powers.' Magneto stomps harder.
He did summon his armor in the Avengers stick out tongue


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indeed he can summon it. Plus I have to know this but are we just assmueing his armor is magnetic here?


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He did summon his armor in the Avengers stick out tongue


He never Un-summoned it stick out tongue stick out tongue


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indeed he can summon it. Plus I have to know this but are we just assmueing his armor is magnetic here?


Actually Magneto was never stated to only be able to control magnetic metals. Just that he can control metal.

You're tryna nerf him and i won't let you! mad


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lol no I really just was wondering if it was just an assumption or if I missed it somewhere in one of the movies.

EDIT: but the fact he can make it float and what not makes me think his power is based on magnetism. I mean if I had control over chairs it doesn't necessarily mean I can make them defy gravity.


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His power is stated as being magnetism.


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ahh ok....so then we are assuming thors suit is magnetic?


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ahh ok....so then we are assuming thors suit is magnetic?
There's no way to know for sure. There hasn't been a metal Mags hasn't been able to effect but Asgardian stuff is weird and enchanted so it's hard to say one way or the other for me.

I think for the shake of discussion we are just kind of going with a he can for now, cause obviously if Mags can't he's toast stick out tongue


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ahh ok....so then we are assuming thors suit is magnetic?


By all accounts it's metal. Unless something was stated in Thor or Avengers?


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There's no way to know for sure. There hasn't been a metal Mags hasn't been able to effect but Asgardian stuff is weird and enchanted so it's hard to say one way or the other for me.

I think for the shake of discussion we are just kind of going with a he can for now, cause obviously if Mags can't he's toast stick out tongue
Indeed. I can get on board with that.

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By all accounts it's metal. Unless something was stated in Thor or Avengers?


Not all metals are magnetic.


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Not all metals are magnetic.


Obviously.

Magneto (like in the comics) is beyond just controlling ferrous or magnetic metals, we see him control silver and gold.


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I don't remember him controlling silver. Could you tell me about this?


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X-Men: First Class.

He controls the silver coin several times.

He rips out the banker's gold crown/tooth.


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X-Men: First Class.

He controls the silver coin several times.

He rips out the banker's gold crown/tooth.


you do know that first class is considered a reboot right? Thats not the same magneto


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you do know that first class is considered a reboot right? Thats not the same magneto


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X-Men: First Class is a 2011 American superhero film, based on the X-Men characters appearing in Marvel Comics. The fifth installment in the X-Men series, the film was directed by Matthew Vaughn and produced by Bryan Singer, and acts as a prequel to the original X-Men trilogy.


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X-Men: First Class is a 2011 American superhero film, based on the X-Men characters appearing in Marvel Comics. The fifth installment in the X-Men series, the film was directed by Matthew Vaughn and produced by Bryan Singer, and acts as a prequel to the original X-Men trilogy.


Ok well if it's not a reboot then it is a VERY loose on it's continuity. Not to mention its plans for the second film involving characters that are only students by the time the last 3 come into things. Not to mention the wolverine origins reboot coming and having the same guy play wolverine it would be easy to still connect him to it. Anyways This is either a terrible series with very low regaurd for continuity or a reboot.


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Agreed, there were several slip ups, but continuity errors won't save Thor here. He's being crushed.


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but it's just more then slip ups. The 2nd film plans to have this team.

Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Beast, Iceman, Rouge, Angle, Colossus, jubilee, and Shadowcat.

Not to mention in the original films Mags help build cerebro. That's how he knows how to build it in x2. According to First Class he most certainly did not help build it. I mean some of these things are full scale changes that would directly affect the plots.

anyways assuming that this is still the same magneto and that he can manipulate Thors armor The most damage he's going to do is hold him in place. Thats not going to stop Thors wrist from moving to either throw or summon with his hammer.


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X-Men: First Class is a 2011 American superhero film, based on the X-Men characters appearing in Marvel Comics. The fifth installment in the X-Men series, the film was directed by Matthew Vaughn and produced by Bryan Singer, and acts as a prequel to the original X-Men trilogy.


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