Then you haven't read the manga. People are constantly getting ROFL-blitzed in DBZ, to the point where Perfect Cell's kamehameha wave even travels faster than instant transmission(which is, you know, instantaneous). SSJ2 adult Gohan was arguably still more powerful than(i.e. faster than) Perfect(not super perfect) Cell, got shit-blitzed by Fat Buu like he was stationary.
Speed typically DOES grow with along with ki, as ki is used to enhance all your abilities, including strength, speed, perception, flight speed, etc. Some people are meant to be more tanks than speedsters(like Broly, Super 13, Android 16, etc.), and some are meant to be speedsters more than tanks(Burter, Cell, Kid Buu(although he was also a tank), etc.), but overall, everyone is well rounded in all attributes. This is because ki controls nearly all attributes(biology controls the rest), and amplifies all abilities. An example is how by concentrating on his speed only, Majin Vegeta was able to blitz fat Buu, who blitzed SSJ2 Gohan, but then was also able to concentrate all his ki into a small area to completely vaporize him at an atomic level, while being stationary.
To assume speed doesn't grow with ki, or to even make the insinuation that such could be true, when it has been blatantly STATED otherwise, is completely ludicrous.
This is not what I meant by my remark, some speed is added by the growth of powerlevel, what we don't know is exactly how much speed as the power grows. The difference in how we read such ratio can lead to entirely different conclusions.
True, but it can be deduced to be an incredibly significant difference, since it took Goku 25 hours to travel 1 million km with a power level of "over 8,000", and he could go around Namek in 3 millionths of a second, as I showed with a power level of 3 million. The first is 40,000 km/hour, and the second showing is nearly 78 thousand times FTL. The difference in PL is only 2,992,000, or a 375 times increase, but the speed difference is from 40,000 km/hour to 84,016,800,000,000 km/hour. That's over a 2,100,420,000 or an over 2 billion times increase. Just from that feat, power level increase means an ASTRONOMICAL speed increase for DBZ characters.
Also, check my math again, it's all correct. I said the first equation wasn't FTL, but that wasn't the correct equation, as I can see looking back at the manga, to be deducing. So, not only were your "facts" wrong, but your math was hilariously incorrect too, as I pointed out in my previous post.
Ok, I could calculate the increase in stats in proportion to PL then. I already proved it to be a massive increase in stats with just a small increase in PL though, so it would be even more over LS than I just posted. What I posted was the bare minimum, lol.
Plus, my post was made from all accurate power levels and feats that were proven. The numbers I gave were 100% accurate, and rounded to the nearest tenths.
Yes, just like Roshi and Krillin spit on each other, sneezed, played rock-paper-scissors, and punched/kicked each other dozens of times in 1/5th of a second.
Cool story bro, you're the one who's wrong. I posted "going 5 times the Earths circumference in less than half a second is about 45% faster than light".
Light moves 149,896.2 km/half second. Earths circumference is 40,008 km, not 40,075 km. Anyway, 40,008 times 5 equals 200,040, making 5 times Earths circumference 200,040. 149,896.2 km/half second : 200,040 km/half second. 200,040 is 135% of 149,896.2. I was rounding in my head, and was still only off by ten percent. Again, that's FTL.
That's besides the point though. I already gave the correct equation, and explained that the first equation wasn't the correct one. Shit, I said that in the original post, **** head. Look back to the post.
Notice how the conclusion is still the same, and you can't do simple third grade math?
What? I posted the power levels of Saiyan saga Goku, and Namek saga Goku, which were 8,000 and 3 million respectively. Check my equations. Again, you will find them to be indisputable.
Which is baseless and wrong based on another accurate estimate. Best estimate is 3.5 times, broski. So, you'll have to forgive me for using a number that has been substantiated instead of your asspull figures.
K.
You do know the earth is an oblate spheroid, right?
You'll be shocked to know that I used the equator number instead of the "poles" number. I was trying to be as generous as possible.
That's what counts in pedantry, even if you end up being wrong: you tried.
After you get done patting yourself on the back with your incorrect math, you should read this:
You're still wrong even with your incorrect "5 times" number.
Here's why:
If Goku flew the entire distance around Namek using your 5 times number, he's an idiot: he could have just turned around and, bam, Freeza would have been right there. hahahaaha
You were wrong then and you're still wrong. Just say, "Dude, my apologies: I was wrong."
It's not that hard. I did it for Ares when he pointed out my mistake. It was super easy to fix, too!
You have got to be the most retarded person on this site.
I already stated that Namek wasn't 10 times larger than Earth in my first post. Using that isn't helping your argument, only making you look stupid by dodging my question.
I said Namek was 10 times larger than Earth, not five, I was simply accounting for the fact he flew from one side of the planet to the other by dividing the factor by two, retard.
Are you insinuating that 200,040 is not 135% of 149,896.2? Divide 200,040 by 149,896.2. It gets 1.35(rounded), i.e. it is 135% of 149,896.2, or in otherwords, 35 percent bigger. Again, I rounded off the top of my head, only being 10 percent off.
I also find it hilarious that you've been talking about the first few sentences of my post and ignored the rest so far. I stated I was using the wrong variables in the same post, to make a point. That you were, and still are, wrong. Hilariously wrong, and your math has been incorrect in 90% of your posts, which I have already proven.
If you're not wrong, then find an actual flaw with the rest of my post. Here it is for you.
It's not that far for Goku. He's ran a million kilometers before without a break. I'm pretty sure 70 thousand km isn't all that much to him. I've ran 5 miles before without a break. Comparatively, it would be easy for me to run half a mile without even getting winded.
Yeah, but I also see the extreme dilation of the entire page, which makes Vegeta look bigger than the island Porunga's on. I also see the intense curvature of a planet 3.5 times larger than Earth. Statements in DBZ are typically more valid than displays, as Akira Toriyama is pretty popular for his extreme exaggeration in drawings. Just like when you saw a spirit bomb that was 11 km in diameter coming to Namek looking like a huge moon.
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