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Originally posted by Galan007
Until Hulk throws planets around, tanks anti-matter energy, and simultaneously beats every noteworthy character in his company (with ease), then I'm going to keep assuming that Prime is a LOT stronger and more durable than he's yet to be portrayed.

Additionally, I think an option people are forgetting about is Prime's HV. Even when he was extremely weakened during SC, his HV still pierced through Superman like a hot knife through butter... That said, it wouldn't even slow down vs. Hulk's hide. Just saying.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Eh, wut? Feats are all we have to go by on KMC. And in this case, they serve to demonstrate the VAST difference in displayed feats between Hulk and Prime.

ie. Prime's strength was sufficient to casually throw planets around. His durability was sufficient to tank Anti-Monitor's anti-matter energy AND endure a universe-busting explosion unscathed. His HV (while tremendously weak) cut through Superman himself like he wasn't even there. From those feats I can logically deduce that Prime was portrayed as several leagues beyond WWH/WBH in those areas.

Don't care what Gladiator or Thor have done. Anyone who isn't nigh-retarded would agree that Prime demolishes either of them in a contest of strength/durability. Aside from that, Prime actually uses his hax strength/durability in battles *see every fight he's been involved in*.

Regardless, you're entitled to your own opinion- but in my opinion, WWH did nothing indicative of being able to take any wins over Prime. He [Hulk] barely managed to stalemate a baseline/non-Voided out Sentry, after all (and most agree that version of Sentry < Prime.)

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Originally posted by Galan007
Regardless, you're entitled to your own opinion- but in my opinion, WWH did nothing indicative of being able to take any wins over Prime. He [Hulk] barely managed to stalemate a baseline/non-Voided out Sentry, after all (and most agree that version of Sentry < Prime.)

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Originally posted by carver9
That's kind of lowballing don't you think? Trying to use Sentry as some type of leeway. I could easily bring up Prime fights against Conner or his fight against an inexperience Ion but what would that help?

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Originally posted by zopzop
You realize that the Sentry was completely burnt out and Banner Hulked out stronger than ever right after when he got enraged again.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Bring them up all you want. Prime ultimately killed Connor, and nearly killed a Superman-level guy who ALSO had the Ion-power... And in both instances Prime wasn't noticeably weaker afterward (as evident by him proceeding to trounce dozens of heroes immediately after beating those two.)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying WWH wasn't extremely tough- he most certainly was. But imo, Prime is just on a different level.

He still reverted back to Banner immediately after fighting Sentry. That's all I was saying.

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Originally posted by Galan007
He still reverted back to Banner immediately after fighting Sentry. That's all I was saying.

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Originally posted by zopzop
True, but not before downing Sentry, the same guy that supposedly "stalemated" Galactus off panel

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Originally posted by zopzop
and annihilated Molecule Man.

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Originally posted by Galan007
"Off panel" being the key words there. Personally, I have a hard time believing that a guy who could barely stalemate WWH was capable of stalemating anything more than a starving Galactus.

Sentry never displayed any molecular manipulation abilities before Dark Reign. In fact, he didn't even know he was capable of doing so before Dark Reign- so I don't know what you're trying to say here? Certainly you aren't suggesting that WWH would have resisted the same molecular dispersion attacks that destroyed Molecule Man and Loki..?

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Originally posted by zopzop
All I'm saying is : WBH/WWH beat a guy that held his own vs Galactus and destroyed the Molecule Man. Those guys are at least as impressive as anyone SBP fought.

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Originally posted by zopzop
All I'm saying is : WBH/WWH beat a guy that held his own vs Galactus and destroyed the Molecule Man. Those guys are at least as impressive as anyone SBP fought.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Because, you know, we saw Sentry stalemate Galactus, right? We know the particulars behind it, right? It's more than just a comment pertaining to an alleged off panel event, right?

And even though Sentry himself said that he did NOT know he was capable of manipulating molecules before Dark Reign/Siege we'll just assume he was somehow on that level during WWH, right?

Perfectly logical!

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Originally posted by Galan007
Because, you know, we saw Sentry stalemate Galactus, right? We know the particulars behind it, right? It's more than just a comment pertaining to an alleged off panel event, right?

And even though Sentry himself said that he did NOT know he was capable of manipulating molecules before Dark Reign/Siege we'll just assume he was somehow on that level during WWH, right?

Perfectly logical!