Beats me, man. It's MVF policy. Avada Kedavra has to be proven unblockable.
Facepalm
Great, basically you're now saying Aragorn + torch > Gandalf.
The Nazgul hate fire, and Aragorn completely surprised the wraiths with a torch blitzkrieg assault. The Witch King was caught off-guard and was the first one attacked by Aragorn.
And I still don't understand why you're bringing up the Witch King when it's Gandalf the White vs. Voldemort.
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Unfortunately for you, you fell directly into a trap: Harry Potter has absurd will power, as well. He resisted the imperius curse when cast upon him. Impero is not the same as legilmens, however.
Harry Potter LATER gained the ability to use Occlumency against Voldemort through using strong emotions (his own version of Occlumency).
In other words, you just proved my point. Not only does Gandalf lack the knowledge of it, he doesn't know the magic to repel it, either.
And I explained why, already. No amount of strawmanning that point will dimish it, either.
As fact, it is not. It wasn't spoken. He embued it with lightning.
Seems it was something else.
This is also something that I will not entertain any longer: deal with it not be the killing curse.
Watch the clip again: it occured quite quickly. Not ony did he block the spell from Harry, he reversed it back on Harry. This all occured in a much smaller time span than the fireball from Saruman to Gandalf AND before Gandalf could negate the fireball into nothing.
By feats, Voldemort is faster and more efficient with his magic reversal.
Deal with it.
You had to have to actually made a point for me to address them. You dodged MY points, not the othe way around. I pointed it out, as well. You can't simply reply with "no u" comments.
And you say Wizards are limited to basic spells without their wands.
Define that.
TK is not basic.
Transmutation is not basic.
Engorgio is not basic.
Yet, you say they are basic.
Keep in mind that the wands themselves simply channel the magic of the wielder.
You say he used his wand to do that TK, I say he has the TK feats to prove otherwise. Obviously, I'm right and your interpretation is wrong (I'm not joking or making a snide comment, either). What more proof do you need that he has the wandless TK ability to do that than when he tossed aside the dead giant in Deathly Hallows, part 2?
What more do you need than the Death Eater standing on the train tracks and stopping a moving train with his hand? Surely you recognize that his subordinate is weaker than he is in TK? Else he be the subordinate?
Voldemort loves his TK, that's clear.
He has far more uses of TK than he does the killing curse. So you should amend your position of the killing curse as being his first move. More likely, he'll use TK.
Thank you for sharing. It's irrelevant to my point and off topic. My fault, of course, but there is not greater exercise in disciplined TK other than some God-like characters: Dr. Manhattan, Dark Phoenix, and so forth.
Wrong: I pointed out Voldemort's MO to you and you went off on a tangent abou Quanchi and forcing HP to take a bow. It was irrelevant to the actual point I made.
Did Harry Potter oppose Voldemort or fight against him?
Yes, yes he did. Boom, combat situation.
Now stop playing games.
I'll just do what you replied with: no u.
It was a combat situation. One-sided, but it was combat.
Deal with it.
You mad because you were wrong about Voldemort's MO? Does that destroy the only strand you were grasping for why Gandalf would win?
That's probably it because there's no reason to support a case for why Voldemort would come out of the gate with a killing curse: there's literally dozens of other ways Voldemort can kill Gandalf. So it would seem you think you have some sort of good case against Voldemort (you don't...it's actually sad) in favor of Gandalf.
But, by your definition, that was a combat situation. So, you just shot yourself in the foot there, sir! WEEE!
Would you call an ambush in the middle of the night a combat situation (don't answer...because it is a combat situation, even if none of the other side puts up much of a resistance...just ask you brothers in the military)
So you've basically started saying to me what I've been saying to you?
Again, you have to do better than "no u".
Watch, I can post like you:
No it wasn't instant and it most certainly was not spontaneous.
In fact, what happened:
The fireball was meant to hit gandalf and explode into that swirling fireball and then consume Gandalf. Gandalf reacted at the very last moment before the flames actually touched him and his horse, and put up a defensive shield. Gandalf was almost overwhelming, in the beginning (even his comrades were scared), but he slowly gained control of the swirling flames and extinguished them.
Gandalf's ability there was shielding himself from a fireball and having very slow and cumbersome PK.
So, what now?
Now you're mad.
Well, you really did prove my point. It's your fault so be mad at yourself.
LotR is better in almost every single way over the HP films. Almost straight across the board in every single category. That's my opinion, of course.
No you did. Go back and re-read it.
That's my line.
You didn't. And you lied about screen feats yet again.
Nuh uhhhh!
1. I'm not a classy person. I have quite the potty mouth and have a strong disdain for pomp and many societal norms. This is why I fart where-ever I want to.
2. Shallowness has nothing to do with what you're talking about. "Ass" or "bastard" may be better terms. Learn what "shallow" means before using it or I will tell.
3. Stop lying about on screen feats and then maybe I won't have to point out where you lie in your posts.
So do I. Regular 'ol Aragorn routed a group of Nazgul, the Witch King included, with a sword and a torch. For some reason, Gandalf forgot he could do magic and failed to send a fireball the Witch King's way when he landed before him. Or any Orc's way, for that matter. Gandalf sucks in combat. Except in the games. Video-game Gandalf kicks ass.
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A friend of mine once joked that Gandalf has ADD. Twice in the films he's in a very serious, nigh perilous situation--and his eyes and attention are completely shifted to that moth flying by.
I'm beginning to think it wasn't a joke.
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The facepalm only applies to you here. It's painfully clear every stinking one of the Nazgul had time to react and fight back against one wild and crazy man named Aragorn. Aragorn pwned him while all of the Nazgul tried defeating him before he bested any of them.
Because the Witch King defeated a guy who can be beaten by simple fire and he's a wizard. Voldemort could toss a simple fireball attack his way and have hm screaming for his life while Gandalf just holds up his staff in defiance which gets shattered.
The Witch King apparently couldn't shatter a torch but he could shatter Gandalf's staff.
Voldemort stomps him worse than the Witch King.
Just concede Korto you're on the verge. I can smell the concession on you.
Good points. Why didn't the WK shatter Aragorn's sword? (one of the points I've been making for ages)
Keep in mind that everyone thinks Gandalf can shatter wands. There's no evidence for this. I would agree IF and only if Gandalf was more powerful of a wizard than Voldemort, but by feats, Gandalf doesn't even come close to Voldemort.
The Witch King also seemed to need several seconds to wind up his sword tornado. Everyone knows you can't bust wood without a sword tornado.
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My bad. The 'can' was supposed to be a 'can't'. I fixed it now.
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Yes, exactly. The only way logically based upon what we know that Gandalf can do so is if he is more powerful than the opposing wizard. It meshes perfectly with why he didn't do so against Saruman the first time as well but did so successfully the second time around due to his power increase as Gandalf the White.
Anyone who seriously claims Gandalf is more powerful than Voldemort is really as bad as the example I used earlier. It's like saying Wolverine is stronger than the Hulk.
Yes, one feat of reacting to mere human and elvish foes. The same Gandalf stood there and allowed a fireball to travel down a tower and hit him and the Witch King to create a fire sword and break his staff. LOL.
You saying something repeatedly without so much as offering any evidence makes this a baseless claim. You're the king of baseless claims.
So you try to argue and distance yourself away from how Gandalf fights in character and argue based upon his powers and what you'd do.
If I can decide Voldemort's attacks and script the fight Gandalf loses just the same. Anyway you want it Voldemort's faster, smarter, and more powerful.
Because Legolos is known for both the slowness of his actions and his arrows. LoL, just STFU. Gandalf the White > Voldermort in reaction and attack speed.
Except we see Gandalf destroying a magical stave on a whim, a magical wand will be no different, especially a wand that a 105lbs man-child like Harry Potter can snap with his hands.
CIS/PIS is turned off in these Vs matches. It's a rule, deal with it; stop crying. It's also funny how you ignore that Voldermort likes to gloat like an idiot before he kills, as see when he presumably killed Harry in DH Pt2. You're a biased clownshoe gimping the character you hate with worst shown feats; while boosting the one you love with best shown feats.
Except he's not, as proven with the above screen feats.
Umbridge or whatever her name is easily kept a band of centaurs in line who were skilled bowmen. Legolas is just an exceptionally skilled bowman in the hp universe he'd be a minor footnote but since there were so many fodderlike foes he stood out.
I have given other examples which outweighs your 1 example as evidence. Looks like more evidence supports my stance than yours.
He destroys a stave on a whim because he's more powerful than Saruman. Why else would he be defeated and wait on a giant tower until a giant flying bird could save him ? Are you saying he didn't do so out of stupidity.
Harry Potter came to him and then he avada kedavra'd him. It happened very quickly. Gandalf didn't even kill Saruman or the Witch King. LOL. The guy avoids death at all costs even when Saruman is mocking him. What a badass.
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