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Gandalf dodges and breaks his wand.

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Gandalf dodges and breaks his wand.
And a pink elephant from space crushes them all.



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Oh well that's good. I hate all that taunting, exposition and peacocking in epic duels. PIS sucks.

Avada Kedavra. Voldemort solos in 1.8 seconds.


Gandalf could dodge/block (see reflexes in TT) with staff/sword or he could raise his magical shield that was powerful enough to block a giant fire-sword wielding by a super-strong being.

Gandalf solos in 1.0 seconds.


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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
And a pink elephant from space crushes them all.



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Gandalf was shown to be able to react fast enough to block an arrow and a throwing axe almost simultaneously. He can dodge an Avada Kadavra or at least block it once with his sword.

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Gandalf could dodge/block (see reflexes in TT) with staff/sword or he could raise his magical shield that was powerful enough to block a giant fire-sword wielding by a super-strong being.

Gandalf solos in 1.0 seconds.
"I am the servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the Flame of Anor. The Dark Fire shan't avail you, Flame of Udun."---took about 10 seconds actually.


"Avada Kedavra"---about 1.5. Unblockable Killing Curse vs. Fire Shield.


And as we can see here:




Gandalf's possess the ability to easily and swiftly blast non-magical beings in to oblivion with his uber magical death rays that travel faster than arrows. The video doesn't show that because Gandalf was just trying to pull the wool over Pippin's eyes, just in case Pippin was a spy for Voldemort.


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He can dodge an Avada Kadavra or at least block it once with his sword.
Swords can block the Unblockable Killing Curse? I didn't know that his sword had a loved one who died for it...


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Because it's not... It's what happened, and if you seriosuly think it was all a dream... Well you would be an idiot. That's really all that needs to be said.


Well lookie here, I have the actual movie to back me up.

As Frodo clearly says at 4.00, 'Its just a dream.' Now unless you have some actual goddamn proof, I'm sticking to the above line.

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Well lookie here, I have the actual movie to back me up.

As Frodo clearly says at 4.00, 'Its just a dream.' Now unless you have some actual goddamn proof, I'm sticking to the above line.

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The beginning scene was just a dream.


(Is what I'm saying.)


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Swords can block the Unblockable Killing Curse? I didn't know that his sword had a loved one who died for it...


The spell is shown being stopped my metal and concrete etc... A sword is metal and therefore would stop it, although would likely be destroyed in doing so.

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Well lookie here, I have the actual movie to back me up.

As Frodo clearly says at 4.00, 'Its just a dream.' Now unless you have some actual goddamn proof, I'm sticking to the above line.

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Common sense. The scene is there to show us what happens... Just like the scenes where we see Voldemort walking into Harry's house in SS. Plus it agrees with what Gandalf says to Aragorn later on.

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The beginning scene was just a dream.


(Is what I'm saying.)
Gandalf falling with the Balrog? What about :

"But you fell."

"Through fire. And water."


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The spell is shown being stopped my metal and concrete etc... A sword is metal and therefore would stop it, although would likely be destroyed in doing so.
Very well.

"Avada Kedavra! Damn. Avada Kedavra!"


What then?


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Very well.

"Avada Kedavra! Damn. Avada Kedavra!"


What then?


Dodge. wink

Nah, but in all honesty if Voldemort uses some of his other spells he should win quite easily.

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Common sense. The scene is there to show us what happens... Just like the scenes where we see Voldemort walking into Harry's house in SS. Plus it agrees with what Gandalf says to Aragorn later on.


SS?

Well those scenes are explained by Harry, you know actually being there at the time, as opposed to Frodo.

I'm still asking for proof. And common sense is ain't it.

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Gandalf falling with the Balrog? What about :

"But you fell."

"Through fire. And water."


Hardly positive confirmation. Besides, he didn't fall through any fire that I recall.


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SS?

Well those scenes are explained by Harry, you know actually being there at the time, as opposed to Frodo.

I'm still asking for proof. And common sense is ain't it.

Hardly positive confirmation. Besides, he didn't fall through any fire that I recall.


Sorcerous Stone. And the scene where Voldermot walking to his house does not have Harry there yet we are led to believe it is factual, just like Balrog fight.

Fell through the Balrog's fire.

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Sorcerous Stone. And the scene where Voldermot walking to his house does not have Harry there yet we are led to believe it is factual, just like Balrog fight.

Fell through the Balrog's fire.


Well if you don't accept the first handwave then you can accept it as it being because Harry has a peice of Voldemorts soul inside him. Simples.

He fell through no fire. I just checked.


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Well if you don't accept the first handwave then you can accept it as it being because Harry has a peice of Voldemorts soul inside him. Simples.


The point is we are led to believe it's true. The same for TTT. It's there to show us what happened.

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He fell through no fire. I just checked.


Then you missed the part where he fell on the Balrog's flaming back...

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The point is we are led to believe it's true. The same for TTT. It's there to show us what happened.



Then you missed the part where he fell on the Balrog's flaming back...


I would be inclined to agree, but they chose to make it a dream. And as a dream, it isn't acceptable as evidence.

He fell through no fire.


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"I am the servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the Flame of Anor. The Dark Fire shan't avail you, Flame of Udun."---took about 10 seconds actually.


"Avada Kedavra"---about 1.5. Unblockable Killing Curse vs. Fire Shield.


And as we can see here:

Gandalf's possess the ability to easily and swiftly blast non-magical beings in to oblivion with his uber magical death rays that travel faster than arrows. The video doesn't show that because Gandalf was just trying to pull the wool over Pippin's eyes, just in case Pippin was a spy for Voldemort.


That wasn't Gandalf casting the spell, that was him boasting and trying to keep the Balrog at bay. When the Balrog finally attacked, it took him less than second to raise his shield.

Ava Kedavara will fail, dodged, blocked or magically shielded against.

No one said anything about "uber magical death rays" that don't exist concerning Gandalf , that's the pro-Voldermort fanboys. Gandalf wins because he's more powerful and Voldermort's go-to spell (the death-spell) won't work on Gandalf for stated reasons.


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I would be inclined to agree, but they chose to make it a dream. And as a dream, it isn't acceptable as evidence.


Whatever. It's quite clear it is intended to be taken as fact but if you want to be stubborn about it...

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He fell through no fire.


Um... When he fell onto the Balrog's back he fell through the flames on the Balrog's back.

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