all five of the tags had to be removed at once, and the barrier itself caused physical harm (iirc) and of coarse each tag made a copy of the person who approached it, kekkei genkei and ninja tools included
That actually was a point covered in the anime. Guy gave Naruto the jump suit and explained that he uses its bouncy goodness for fighting.
About the thread: Mito wins because Samhada can only take 6 tails at a time. If Kisame tries to absorb too much of the Kyuubi chakra...he will kill himself (because he has to have enough to balance out the chakra).
The Kyuubi has twice as much power from Mito. And Mito had to be exceptionally strong to serve as the host for the Kyuubi (due to the chakra requirements...that and the ability of the ninja are almost always the reasons a host is chosen...see Bee for example). So, with twice the chakra, 6 tails cloak form is actually 12 tails compared to the others beasts because the Kyuubi has more than twice the chakra of any other single beast.
So, Samheda absorbs his thang...then Kisame does his absoption ...and the Kyuub with Mito still have plenty of chakra left over. Kisame dies on his own because he waaaay underestimated Mito.
Look ma, I didn't have to invoke KCM.
It's all conjecture. However, it is far more likely that the host, since it is chosen to protect the Kage, is quite an awesome ninja. It would be erroneous to assume AGAINST Mito rather than for her because it is far more likely that she was a truly awesome ninja than not being one.
I see it as both sides trying to make a baseless assumption...however, one side is not actually baseless and the other is. Hint: the one that says Mito HAS to be an awesome ninja is not baseless. The other demanding that she's not a awesome ninja is baseless and actually contradicted by a few portions in the manga.
Stick with what is safest/most probable: Mito was a super awesome ninja. She was the WEAPON of her nation. She was so awesome that Hashirama thought it okay to sell/give away all the other tailed beasts. AHA!
a) Assuming she's a 3, and not lower like a 2, or higher like a 4.
Kisame is also able to react to mid-low end 5's just fine.
b) 3.5 was around 3-4 years ago I think? Before he learned Sage Mode. His base mode's probably gotten faster since then due to his taijutsu skills increasing.
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Finding an experienced ninja with speed lower than 3 is almost unknown... unless they have a tremendous strong ranged skillset that doesn't require much moving to begin with.
He's done no particular speed training that we know of (as for taijutsu training, both Hidan and Tsunade have lowish speed and great taijutsu) and I still don't think he's got any new baseform speed feats of note.
cop-out of the highest degree if I ever saw one. C'mon son.
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You mean the machine depending on the weather, that fueled my guy and that you would build at random after a list of endless no-durability constructs you just posted one after another?
Your typical plan is to stop posting when your argument gets destroyed? I guess, lol.
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Right, you just... cared enough to start the conversation in the first place. lol. So do you just have ADD, or was the discussion with Nemebro and DP going in a direction that turned you off?
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Indeed. Of course, if those are the only two choices, I'd go with ADD.
You don't have to argue something for pages on pages. 3-5 is enough for me. Well, in this case anyway. If I care about the argument, I could go all say. But I could think of better things to do with my time. Like jerking off. :O
Nah. If posters want to argue forever, more power to them. I do too when the topic is appealing to me. But if it's not, and I say what I feel needs to be said on the subject, then I will leave after a while.