So that's your excuse?
The funny thing is I could do the same thing with the alternate Celestials. No energy bleeding when one lost a hand, no energy bleed when (IYO) Reed killed a Celestial with the Sol Anvil, no energy bleed when the IG killed 4, no energy bleed when Invisible Woman smashed through Eson's hand. Etc
Also Exitar bled against Thor and Sue, and one panel of artwork was hard to tell. And Arishem's hand was on fire afterwards, so we couldn't tell either way.
We know alternate Celestials bleed energy. We've seen 616 Celestials bleed energy. It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together and realize that 616 Celestials bleed energy, especially now that Hickman wrote a whole telling arc about them.
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Future (adult) Franklin shows up with Future Valeria on the last page. Apparently, the older Franklin's astral form has been teaching his younger self how to properly utilize his powers. He also told him to use his abilities sparingly, as they will need much of it to "save them all". Young Franklin tells his older self (still unaware of his mentor's identity in shaded form) that he had to use a small fraction of his powers to distract the Celestials in their first encounter to which older Franklin replies, "You cannot help who you are.. bla bla bla"
I'll try and make this as straightforward as possible. We see the Celestial blast Ben and continue to do so as he struggles: http://i39.tinypic.com/33xau01.jpg
We only see it one more time again and it's an attack directed below (The Thing being the likely target in this case): http://i41.tinypic.com/90wxeg.jpg
And when the Celestials combine blast the Fantastic Four, we see Thing struggling to get up (I'm guessing the combined attack takes him out): http://i40.tinypic.com/fo0a8.jpg
So I think it's a pretty safe assumption that Thing was being blasted but kept on kicking for the duration of the fight unless I'm missing something.
Perhaps the Thing's best durability/endurance feat ever.
Definitely a possibility, at least it makes more sense than her simply possessing the raw power.
I repeat, what do you define as cosmic level? Johny Storm specifically referred to burning like the Sun in that scene and could burn even hotter thanks to his Cosmic Rod. I personally don't consider that cosmic but Hickman may very well might.
It's almost certainly a hyperbolic statement the way it was said but whatever.
Sol's Anvil was confirmed to draw energy from the Sun in the FF #15, the Earth bases apparently were just reinforcing the blast or whatever.
In terms of power, the weapon should be about as powerful as a portion of the Sun's energy from what I've seen. That isn't a bad thing though unless you're one of those guys that expects characters to always be busting Galaxies and shit all the time. I'm not going to really argue that Lee's Odin would shit on the Celestials just because he was operating on a higher scale. Sometimes above Top Tiers have been portrayed as only city level, it's comics.
Superman has all kinds of other shit going on by the way and where a character draws energy from depends on how much and their relation to the object. But like I said, I'm lenient in this case because it was a Reed designed weapon.
Anyways, it's clear that these Celestials aren't on the level of the early 616 Celestials but that's alright, not even the 616 Celestials are that revered anymore.
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Marvel contunity is God awful, I mean a mutant beating one of the most powerful Celestials in Tiamut that alone should PIS on steriods, fractions on Bor, I mean the list goes on.
Galactus and Celestials are peers at best, if Galactus would lets say take on the fourth host, Galactus would of have did the samething like his counter part did in Paradise X. As where Galactus bust out some tech and open a can of whoop a$$, killing two or three Celestials. Truth be told Galactus absorbs TaaII energy it's game over for Celestials, and Galactus has new souvenirs, new toilet seat!
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