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srankmissingnin
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Is that a standard def screen shot? Elena's hair looks kinda bad their but it didn't look that bad when I was playing it.

Anyway far as video game hair goes, Uncharted 3 pretty top of the line, I mean just compare it to the models in Assassin's Creed Revelations or something and try your best to keep down your lunch. It's not Heavy Rain quality hair, but its not trying to be, Uncharted 3 has a stylized realism, the characters look real enough but still have enough of a cartoon esq exaggeration to their features that they avoid the dead eyes and uncanny valley that you see in stuff like Heavy Rain and the with faces in LA Noir, and all those creep Zemekis movies.


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I see nothing wrong with the hair.


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There isn't anything wrong with it. As far as video game hair goes it's pretty high up there, it just doesn't look like this:

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I see nothing wrong with the hair.


That's because there IS nothing wrong with her hair.


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Is that a standard def screen shot? Elena's hair looks kinda bad their but it didn't look that bad when I was playing it.

Anyway far as video game hair goes, Uncharted 3 pretty top of the line, I mean just compare it to the models in Assassin's Creed Revelations or something and try your best to keep down your lunch. It's not Heavy Rain quality hair, but its not trying to be, Uncharted 3 has a stylized realism, the characters look real enough but still have enough of a cartoon esq exaggeration to their features that they avoid the dead eyes and uncanny valley that you see in stuff like Heavy Rain and the with faces in LA Noir, and all those creep Zemekis movies.


That's actually from a CG trailer. Which I've seen a billion times because we had it playing on a loop.

There's no reason for it to look like that. Uncharted does not impress me at all.

(also, it's kind of funny, because this is the only place I point out that their models are crap and people disagree)


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All the cuts scenes in Uncharted are run off the in game engine with the in game assets, there is no pre rendered cg.

Honestly you are the first person I have even heard say it. Even people who rag on Uncharted for "not being a game" give it props for it's amazing graphics and character models. Half the people I know in real life are animators and the other half are illustrators or concept artists and I can't think of a single of of them who has seen the game who thought the character models were anything short of mind blowing... and artists usually love to talk shit about other peoples work, especially if it is main stream and the artist is more successful. lol

Even my cousin who is a shameless X-Bot admitted it looked better than Gears... and I was so shocked I thought the world might end there on the spot.


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I personally would never have given Skyrim GOTY for some of the reason you mentioned. It's buggy and the graphics suck, but that said I think the story is decent and I think the game play is fun and addictive.

Did pieces of paper blowing around really enhance your play through of Arkham City? I didn't play AC on the pc but I've seen the side by side video comparisons and it isn't enough of an improvement over the console version to say it looks better than Uncharted 3. Also I much prefer the stylized realism of the Uncharted 3 facial animations and lip synching to LA Noir's creepy wooden mo-cap work. LA Noir might deserve some sort of award for the tech they used for mo capture, but a graphics award? Aside from the facial animations it has the same sub par GTA / Assassins Creed level graphics. I have a decently powerful rig, I played The Witcher 2 and Deus Ex on my PC at max settings and they of course looked beautiful... but nothing beats Uncharted on a 70 inch tv... except for Uncharted on 80 inch tv but I don't have that.


I'll just have disagree with you on skyrim being fun and addictive. Even with all the hype pre-release I was reluctant to give it a chance, thanks to oblivion, but went ahead and did so, put in about 10 hours over a few days and said forget this for the reasons i've mentioned above. So i'm done with elder scorlls. I'll give it another chance in 10 years.

And physx isn't only about pieces of paper blowing around. It allows for real world (physical) activities that make the game look more, bellieveable visually. It does enhance the experience and mood.

Particles like smoke or flare smoke, which moves and looks just about realistic as it does in the real world, (see Mafia 2 cigarrette smoke, you could almost swear that the programmers somehow copy and pasted video of real cig smoke and programmed into the game, metro 2033 smoke looks even more convincing). There's interaction with particles and light and it's effects. Like for example if you have dust blow through some light rays indoors, physx tech would blot out that certain part of the ray that's being affected by the dust. The way leaking or spurting gas looks like from a broken pipeline underground and the gust it causes. You have real world wind gusts, debris flying around, broken glass shaterring to pieces and not dissappearing into thin air afterwards like they do without physx. All unscripted and in accordance to whatever in game experienced caused the actions all in real time.

It may not be the end all determining factor on whether or not to play the game but it does give you that extra sense of credibility and immersion. And games like that have a higher replay value than the norm. And this is just the start. On the other hand Epic games is trying to master complex image based lighting, with point light reflections and depth of field. real world/ real time style. They're doing things with water and hair unheard of.

Now imagine that mixed with a more advanced version of physx and then tell me if your gameplay experienced is enhanced.


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Lol at people bawing about Skyrim making Game of the Year.

Crai moar.

Battlefield 3 probably deserved best shooter though, I base this only on the manly ass shit Blax showed me in the game.


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That's actually from a CG trailer. Which I've seen a billion times because we had it playing on a loop.

There's no reason for it to look like that. Uncharted does not impress me at all.

(also, it's kind of funny, because this is the only place I point out that their models are crap and people disagree)


Maybe because saying the character models of a game are crap is saying quite a deal about a game where the graphics look fantastic and are, as srank said, praised even by competitive game companies.


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I can't think of many games with better character models than Uncharted.

I don't even like the series. Drake is a douchebag.


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Hate the series lol And you can't think of many because there aren't many wink


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Skyrim and Arkham City both deserved GotY, so as long as one of them won, I'm cool with that.

Same here, and yay @ Mortal Kombat 9 beating out MvsC 3, even though it was to be expected.

Pretty much agree on the other things you said too.

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Fist, no one takes award shows seriously to begin with. Everyone could find gripes if we actually thought it represented a fully objective scoring system.

Also, this, and stuff.


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Arkham City deserved GotY, in my opinion.


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Originally posted by Peach
That's actually from a CG trailer. Which I've seen a billion times because we had it playing on a loop.

There's no reason for it to look like that. Uncharted does not impress me at all.

(also, it's kind of funny, because this is the only place I point out that their models are crap and people disagree)


oh my! you thought that was CG?



that goes to show the quality of the Uncharted visuals


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Arkham City deserved GotY, in my opinion.



I guess people love quantity over quality erm


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The moment I read MW3 win over BF3 for "Best Shooter", I knew this award show was a joke.

Spike VGA is more like a popularity contest or a beauty pageant.

The games that win are the bestsellers/most popular.

Replay value, gameplay, graphics?
Throw those essentials out of the window. That's Spike VGA.

My advice:
Take these so-called "expert reviews" and "award shows" with a pinch of salt.
Check 'em out and try the games yourself.


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Arkham City deserved GotY, in my opinion.


Yeah, Arkham City should've won it. Something kept telling me that Skyrim was gonna take it, though, with they way they kept on about it at the show from the beginning... And COD too. Which beat bf3 as best shooter, another rob win.


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I guess people love quantity over quality erm


I love quality. That's why I named Arkham City.


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I love quality. That's why I named Arkham City.


yep, my GOTY as well

Skyrim is about quantity


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yep, my GOTY as well

Skyrim is about quantity


Just like the vga's were. It's why it won.

it's nothing but a pop awards show anyway, so go figure. the music celebrities were the worst part.


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Arkham City and Skyrim are both acceptable.

Anything else winning this year would have been a joke.


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