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@Enzeru. I used to think that the Sentry could beat the Silver Surfer, and people thought that I was being overambitious, and this is because I saw how resistant he was to the Power Cosmic that Terrax was throwing around, and never did I ever see the Surfer handle Terrax the way that Sentry did. I think that my thoughts back then were pretty realistic.

The reason for this post is that I wanted to know where you honestly ranked The Sentry. I mean do you think that he is a match for Galactus, the Inbetweener, Mephisto in his realm, a Celestial, Aegis, Tenebrous? I read the scans that you posted, and I was just curious so don't take this as a jab at you, I was just curious.


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@Enzeru. I used to think that the Sentry could beat the Silver Surfer, and people thought that I was being overambitious, and this is because I saw how resistant he was to the Power Cosmic that Terrax was throwing around, and never did I ever see the Surfer handle Terrax the way that Sentry did. I think that my thoughts back then were pretty realistic.

The reason for this post is that I wanted to know where you honestly ranked The Sentry. I mean do you think that he is a match for Galactus, the Inbetweener, Mephisto in his realm, a Celestial, Aegis, Tenebrous? I read the scans that you posted, and I was just curious so don't take this as a jab at you, I was just curious.
What attacks did Terrax throw at Sentry other than a axe swing, because i dont remember him blasting Sentry with the PC.


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What attacks did Terrax throw at Sentry other than a axe swing, because i dont remember him blasting Sentry with the PC.


I believe that I recall Terrax's energy swells hitting the Sentry, but the Sentry treated it like he was taking a warm shower. There also may be a time that the Surfer took Terrax down with the same amount of ease that Bob did, but I have never once seen this.


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The reason for this post is that I wanted to know where you honestly ranked The Sentry. I mean do you think that he is a match for Galactus, the Inbetweener, Mephisto in his realm, a Celestial, Aegis, Tenebrous? I read the scans that you posted, and I was just curious so don't take this as a jab at you, I was just curious.


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mp;pagenumber=1
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I argued for the Sentry in "Sentry VS Annihilators" and I argued for the Sentry in "Sentry VS Thanos".

Why I personally believe that the Sentry has a good shot in defeating them is his ridiculous power level, when he is at his peak:

+ telepathy powerful enough to overpower the Savage Hulk mentally, who is immune to telepathy and to erase the wanted memories from the mind of over 6 billion people and even more animals ... and you had people with telepathic resistances under them like Dr. Doom, Thor and so on ...

+ energy projection and manipulation powerful enough to go toe on toe with Genis-Vell and shred entire worlds, while holding back and when cutting lose, out-ep'ing the microverse ...

+ durability and invulnerability enough to take Savage's Hulk's attacks without even flinching, also probably taking vastly, vastly more damage in his fight with Photon ...

+ having enough strenght to contain the Cosmic Cube for a while, easily overpower Terrax and break his Cosmic Axe with sheer strenght, ripping Ares in half, easily overpowering Thor, physically overpowering and one-shotting the Thing, taking down entire Asgard in one, serious bullrush and so on ...

+ having regeneractions on a scale where he reforms from a skeleton in a matter of seconds ...

+ having molecule manipulation which surpasses even the molecule manipulation of the Molecule Man himself ... it's raw and powerful molecule manipulation, with the lack of finesse, but it gets the job done, since he already dissolved Kree tech and easily killed Loki ...

+ having traveling speed far beyond the speed of light and also a ridiculous combat speed, where he leaves his opponents nearly no chance to react to him, which includes also superhumans like Thor, Blue Marvel, Ares and so on, and not only "humanoids" like Morgana ...

+ easily owning opponents where other powerful heroes struggeled in the past: Terrax, Absorbing Man, Hulk ...

+ and for the worst case scenario having immortality and simply keep coming back from the dead if someone manages to get past the durability / invulnerability / regeneration and maybe even force fields, although that's something not even I'm sure of ... if he has force fields or not.

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I believe that I recall Terrax's energy swells hitting the Sentry, but the Sentry treated it like he was taking a warm shower. There also may be a time that the Surfer took Terrax down with the same amount of ease that Bob did, but I have never once seen this.
From what i recall Terrax had no energy swells going on when he confronted Sentry, and Terrax EP is nothing next to Surfers.

Ganymede pwnd Terrax with ease, so do that make her=to Sentry.

EDIT: Seen the scans, Yeah Sentry blocks a Terrax blast with a forcefield. Saying he is immune to PC is reaching imo as Terrax EP is pale compared to Surfers.


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I believe that I recall Terrax's energy swells hitting the Sentry, but the Sentry treated it like he was taking a warm shower. There also may be a time that the Surfer took Terrax down with the same amount of ease that Bob did, but I have never once seen this.


Sentry dodged the first blast at point range, ... I guess he deflected the second one with a force field, or he absorbing it, I'm not sure what it was and then he already grabbed Terrax hand, broke it, took away the axe and broke his hand.

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EDIT: Seen the scans, Yeah Sentry blocks a Terrax blast with a forcefield. Saying he is immune to PC is reaching imo as Terrax EP is pale compared to Surfers.


Sentry is probably not immune to energy attacks in the end, but I'm really not sure if I can remember instances, where energy attacks harmed him badly. There was the magic lightning in the beginning of the Dark Avengers which even killed him, but that was kinda meh ...

Otherwise he said that Ultron's lightning bolts were not bothering him, while he was bleeding after Ultron kicked him against his throat.

He also probably took planet busting energy attacks by Photon in the microverse, or he absorbed that energy. The narration says that he can draw energy from everywhere and anywhere.
And I don't think that Genis-Vell is all too far in energy projection behind the Surfer. If at all.

So no, not immune but Sentry seems to have his ways.

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Sentry is probably not immune to energy attacks in the end, but I'm really not sure if I can remember instances, where energy attacks harmed him badly. There was the magic lightning in the beginning of the Dark Avengers which even killed him, but that was kinda meh ...

Otherwise he said that Ultron's lightning bolts were not bothering him, while he was bleeding after Ultron kicked him against his throat.

He also probably took planet busting energy attacks by Photon in the microverse, or he absorbed that energy. The narration says that he can draw energy from everywhere and anywhere.
And I don't think that Genis-Vell is all too far in energy projection behind the Surfer. If at all.

So no, not immune but Sentry seems to have his ways.
Nors vahs energy gun melted his face off.

Genis Vells energy blasts had even less of effect on Thanos than Surfers did.


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Nors vahs energy gun melted his face off.


And Hammond overloaded him with fire, even though Sentry was in the sun more than once.
Sometimes the key is to know what plot devices are and what not.

His face was not only melted off, he got killed by the gun and that was there so that Lindy could come up with a new theory, that the Sentry would sturggle with the Void, fly to the sun, burn 'til his skeleton and reform back again, then the Void explaining a little bit about them and later on unleash the "wrath of god" upon New York.

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From what i recall Terrax had no energy swells going on when he confronted Sentry, and Terrax EP is nothing next to Surfers.

Ganymede pwnd Terrax with ease, so do that make her=to Sentry.

EDIT: Seen the scans, Yeah Sentry blocks a Terrax blast with a forcefield. Saying he is immune to PC is reaching imo as Terrax EP is pale compared to Surfers.


Yeah I knew that Terrax is not the Surfer, I was comparing who owned him the worst. If you look at one of those scans, he left Terrax's hand crushed, and from the look on Bob's face, he may have been able to crush a beer can witht he same amount of effort. This is something that I never saw the Surfer do to him with that amount of nonchalant ease.

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Sentry dodged the first blast at point range, ... I guess he deflected the second one with a force field, or he absorbing it, I'm not sure what it was and then he already grabbed Terrax hand, broke it, took away the axe and broke his hand.

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When i first read that, I honestly never thought that it was a force field that Bob was emitting, but just his aura. Which led me to believe that he was immune or nearly immune to a large amount of power cosmic.


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And Hammond overloaded him with fire, even though Sentry was in the sun more than once.
Sometimes the key is to know what plot devices are and what not.

His face was not only melted off, he got killed by the gun and that was there so that Lindy could come up with a new theory, that the Sentry would sturggle with the Void, fly to the sun, burn 'til his skeleton and reform back again, then the Void explaining a little bit about them and later on unleash the "wrath of god" upon New York.
His face was f*cked up in a big way, plus him being dead by such a flimsy weapon shows Surfer EP would wreck him and no amount of context twisting/lying from you can change that.


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[B]Yeah I knew that Terrax is not the Surfer, I was comparing who owned him the worst. If you look at one of those scans, he left Terrax's hand crushed, and from the look on Bob's face, he may have been able to crush a beer can witht he same amount of effort. This is something that I never saw the Surfer do to him with that amount of nonchalant ease.
Like i said Ganymede owned Terrax as bad if not worse by easily beating the crap out of him, so i geuss that makes her Sentry lvl then eh.


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His face was f*cked up in a big way, plus him being dead by such a flimsy weapon shows Surfer EP would wreck him and no amount of context twisting/lying from you can change that.


Sentry has been hurt by less then freakin' Kree tech, when he was in an unstable state. Look at him during the Dark Avengers. Look at him.

He was not the Sentry, he was a pathetic man-child. Unstable and easy to hurt, so I personally still don't see a bad showing for him there when it comes to energy projection, especially since he also already took on bombs by Noh-Varr and was just fine afterwards.

Plot devices, plot devices, plot devices. I'm not lying, I'm just not looking at the few pathetic showings of him and totally ignoring all the good showings which clearly state that he is above plot devices and that's something you idiots are gladly doing to lowball the Sentry and you're on the top of it.

You failed to debate with me in the thready you created, so don't even try it to do it here.

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Sentry has been hurt by less then freakin' Kree tech, when he was in an unstable state. Look at him during the Dark Avengers. Look at him.
His mental state does nothing to his durability

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He was not the Sentry, he was a pathetic man-child. Unstable and easy to hurt, so I personally still don't see a bad showing for him there when it comes to energy projection, especially since he also already took on bombs by Noh-Varr and was just fine afterwards.
He was Sentry shown on panel..laughing out loud comparing bombs to EP.

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Plot devices, plot devices, plot devices. I'm not lying, I'm just not looking at the few pathetic showings of him and totally ignoring all the good showings which clearly state that he is above plot devices and that's something you idiots are gladly doing to lowball the Sentry and you're on the top of it.
Read your own post moron, as you clearly do that with every other character.

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You failed to debate with me in the thready you created, so don't even try it to do it here.
Failed!! bored more like with your same old long ass boring post discounting everything and lying/twisting context.

Dont give "do try it here" ive offered a battlezone several times for you to back up your big mouth and so called "superior" debating skills and all youve done is back down like a coward.


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Sentry has been hurt by less then freakin' Kree tech, when he was in an unstable state. Look at him during the Dark Avengers. Look at him.

He was not the Sentry, he was a pathetic man-child. Unstable and easy to hurt, so I personally still don't see a bad showing for him there when it comes to energy projection, especially since he also already took on bombs by Noh-Varr and was just fine afterwards.

Plot devices, plot devices, plot devices. I'm not lying, I'm just not looking at the few pathetic showings of him and totally ignoring all the good showings which clearly state that he is above plot devices and that's something you idiots are gladly doing to lowball the Sentry and you're on the top of it.

You failed to debate with me in the thready you created, so don't even try it to do it here.
You asked for an example and then started making more excuses soon as one was provided. Why ask for examples if you are going to ignore them or pretend they don't count ?


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His mental state does nothing to his durability


"... when his mental state wavers, he becomes weaker and easier to defeat."

That's a quote from the comics about the Sentry. I posted the scan over 10 times in various threads to teach people about the character, yet you ignorant, stupid buffoons fail every time to read and understand it.

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He was Sentry shown on panel..laughing out loud comparing bombs to EP.


It was a Sentry who didn't know if killing is the right thing. Yeah, way to go, Golden Guardian of Good. It was a by Bendis bastarized version of Sentry.

And no, I'm not comparing bombs to EP, I'm comparing tech-bombs from Noh-Varr by a tech-gun from Noh-Varr. The gun harmed him more, where few things were explained afterwards and he attacked New York, while the bomb, which caused much more destruction didn't even mess up his hair.

That should make sense even for you, you failbot.

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Read your own post moron, as you clearly do that with every other character.


Every character has to deal with plot devices and bad showings, yes. The problem is that the people like to lowball the Sentry, because they hate him as a character. You're one of them, or maybe it's just because I proved that he could defeat Thanos, while you didn't do next to nothing.

Still in the hospital, you moron? Are you mentally unstable too? Seems like that. Did you already forget about your bet? Didn't you say that the loser would have to leave KMC? You clearly lost that debate, since everything what was going on there was Quanchi failing as usually and Thanosi trying to come up with the exact same bullshit and lowball Sentry with the intense usage of his few low showings.

Leave KMC, you moron, pay the debt.

Failed!! bored more like with your same old long ass boring post discounting everything and lying/twisting context.

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Dont give "do try it here" ive offered a battlezone several times for you to back up your big mouth and so called "superior" debating skills and all youve done is back down like a coward.


I think I just adressed that point above, trollo-lololololo-lolo-lolololo! You are a loser and I'm warning you once again: Don't even try to argue with me, or at least go out and get a brain and then try it again.

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"... when his mental state wavers, he becomes weaker and easier to defeat."

That's a quote from the comics about the Sentry. I posted the scan over 10 times in various threads to teach people about the character, yet you ignorant, stupid buffoons fail every time to read and understand it.



It was a Sentry who didn't know if killing is the right thing. Yeah, way to go, Golden Guardian of Good. It was a by Bendis bastarized version of Sentry.

And no, I'm not comparing bombs to EP, I'm comparing tech-bombs from Noh-Varr by a tech-gun from Noh-Varr. The gun harmed him more, where few things were explained afterwards and he attacked New York, while the bomb, which caused much more destruction didn't even mess up his hair.

That should make sense even for you, you failbot.



Every character has to deal with plot devices and bad showings, yes. The problem is that the people like to lowball the Sentry, because they hate him as a character. You're one of them, or maybe it's just because I proved that he could defeat Thanos, while you didn't do next to nothing.

Still in the hospital, you moron? Are you mentally unstable too? Seems like that. Did you already forget about your bet? Didn't you say that the loser would have to leave KMC? You clearly lost that debate, since everything what was going on there was Quanchi failing as usually and Thanosi trying to come up with the exact same bullshit and lowball Sentry with the intense usage of his few low showings.

Leave KMC, you moron, pay the debt.

Failed!! bored more like with your same old long ass boring post discounting everything and lying/twisting context.



I think I just adressed that point above, trollo-lololololo-lolo-lolololo! You are a loser and I'm warning you once again: Don't even try to argue with me, or at least go out and get a brain and then try it again.
"yawn" same old shit, change the record with your constant bullshit.

So i take it as a no then on the Battlezone, thaks for showing your true colours you coward b*tch.

As for me losing "the deabte" we never had a battlezone with judges on Sentry v Thanos, is this just another one of your excuses because you dont have the balls to back up what you shout.


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"yawn" same old shit, change the record with your constant bullshit.

So i take it as a no then on the Battlezone, thaks for showing your true colours you coward b*tch.

As for me losing "the deabte" we never had a battlezone with judges on Sentry v Thanos, is this just another one of your excuses because you dont have the balls to back up what you shout.


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
As i thought, and for all the forum to see that youre are all mouth son.

Now go kill yourself seeing as your to much of a pussy to practice what you preach.


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