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AuraAngel
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It's almost unintelligible lol.

But yeah, people are getting too butthurt. It amuses me.


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Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
For this week:


1. Vagabond
2. Toriko (started it yesterday)
3. Vinland Saga(just read it today even though its been out for twoo weeks)

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4. Bleach

Toriko amuses me so far though I wonder if it will become more outrageous than it already is: it doesn't help that I was really hungry when I first read it)

Bleach was...something else, but Fairy Tail was ****ing awful this week. Probably one of the worst chapters I've read since the series started.

I didnt even know vagabond had a chapter out

I must read it

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They have a reason to be IMO. To see a good series like Fairy Tail sink so low is just infuriating.

Not sure if you still read FT Aura but these scenes are reason enough for people to be pissed:
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/322/9
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/322/10

Oh and there should be three new chapters of Vagabond: well they were new to me when I read them.

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Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
They have a reason to be IMO. To see a good series like Fairy Tail sink so low is just infuriating.

Not sure if you still read FT Aura but these scenes are reason enough for people to be pissed:
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/322/9
http://www.mangapanda.com/fairy-tail/322/10

Oh and there should be three new chapters of Vagabond: well they were new to me when I read them.

Ft starts out so good

And it got better and better then flatlines then got worse

After that it has been switching from steady decrease to complete bottom out

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I read those scans. It seems like a plot point to be brought up later. And the chapter as a whole seemed to fit the tone of Fairy Tail from what I have read so I can't say that it didn't match up with what I'd read before.

Really I'd rather have an instance of the villain, who seems to have an actual heart underneath, not fighting the good guys because they're not going to back down even if they can't win over Zoro literally pwning Monet with fear. I mean I'd have to read the rest of the arc to determine how justified the former case is but in theory there is nothing wrong with it.


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Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Ft starts out so good

And it got better and better then flatlines then got worse

After that it has been switching from steady decrease to complete bottom out


Fairy Tail reached its apex in the Edolas arc, though the Tower of Heaven Arc is still my favorite: which is funny considering the latest chapter of FT.

Zoro vs Monet was bad and everyone knows it. It just was not as bad as this. And I would excuse Sting's actions if I didn't know previously that, to his knowledge, he literally had his friend's life in his hands.

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I guess it just depends on preference. I'd rather have a decent fight with a character pulling out a trump card at the last moment to gain victory over a sheer stomp that was grounded on false conflict.


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Sting had been repeatedly seeing the differences between the FT way and the Sabertooth way throughout the arc. *And* Minerva was beat either way, she couldn't carry out her prior threat.

While the execution could've been done better, the events- Erza's win and Sting's turning- don't bother me in themselves.

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I guess it just depends on preference. I'd rather have a decent fight with a character pulling out a trump card at the last moment to gain victory over a sheer stomp that was grounded on false conflict.


Ditto.


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Just admit it was bad Q99, there is no defending this Fairy Tail chapter. It was a bad chapter on par with Bleach in terms of how bad it was: not close to Bleach's worst but it was bad.

what happened to Monet was awful but it wasn't preceded by three other characters winning fights with poorly executed power-ups and wins. I'd rather have no trump card that a crappy one myself.

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Just admit it was bad Q99, there is no defending this Fairy Tail chapter. It was a bad chapter on par with Bleach in terms of how bad it was: not close to Bleach's worst but it was bad.


what happened to Monet was awful but it wasn't preceded by three other characters winning fights with poorly executed power-ups and wins. I'd rather have no trump card that a crappy one myself.


What happened with Monet was proceeded by a buncha other curbstomp fights, and stuff like Taishigi.

Gajeel's powerup I liked. Laxus's win.... ehh, not a fan, but not a sudden power up, and it's not tear-out-hair bad. Lyon and Chelia vs Grey and Juvia similarly, not great but they won due to bad teamwork.


Sorry, I agree it was far from FT's best, but I honestly don't hate it. A precedent for the power ups existed- Gajeel did what Natsu did. Grey and Juvia wasn't a powerup, just a combo move. And Erza, well, we *saw* her get an upgrade and her take to it much better than everyone else, we just didn't know it could do that.

This was no arc of curbstomps-that-took-too-long (Fishman Island), or arc of character-repeatedly-no-selling-and-invalidating-previous-arcs (Aizen). There was drama, tension, good guys actually getting seriously beat up even if they won, and it ended up hinging not on beating the last foe but him making a choice that I feel is pretty darn cheesy but fits with his character arc.



And it's fairy tail, the shonen manga with actual pacing! Meaning even when you hit a part you don't like, it doesn't take long to get past it and back to more good stuff.


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This chapter was bad. Its as simple as that. sure there's been worse but this is just the last straw for and arc that started out pretty meh...but then just took a huge nose-dive down in quality.

Though despite my complaints this still isnn't as bad as the Azuma fight: well it is kind of but it's not at Bleach's worst.

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Again, I disagree. There's been cool stuff recently, and this chapter was more mixed than just 'bad' in my view.


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Toriko amuses me so far though I wonder if it will become more outrageous than it already is: it doesn't help that I was really hungry when I first read it)






Yes. Yes it does. no expression

And it is glorious.


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Being a dick just because you can isn't trolling.

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What happened with Monet was proceeded by a buncha other curbstomp fights, and stuff like Taishigi.

Taishigi was fodder pre time skip

what would change after zoro trained with Mihawk?

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Being a dick just because you can isn't trolling.


Who are you talking to?

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Taishigi was fodder pre time skip

what would change after zoro trained with Mihawk?


Well the fight when have been much more interesting for one thing lol.


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Taishigi was fodder pre time skip


But she didn't break down crying when she lost! And get mad a foe is showing her mercy.

There's being weak and then there's acting like that, despite being a New World Captain!

It's ok if a character loses and curses their weakness, or is just weak but otherwise useful, but she seems to have become less disciplined and less competent over the skip.


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what would change after zoro trained with Mihawk?


Second visit to the islands and hooking up with everyone: Basically fine. Curbstomping there is ok.

Oh yea, do not make Sanji even weaker to women. I haven't found his larger overreactions funny, and he was better when he was a bit more suave. He can still overreact sometimes, but having it happen constantly is a bit much. Hm... maybe have him try and keep the cool persona but have it crack occasionally and then curse his lack of control...

Fishman island- either ditch the plot, or make it much faster. Have the stawhats, instead of being there before Hodi, simply on the way. Show some of Hodi doing stuff, then have the Strawhats start being effective immediately when they show up rather than them running around for awhile without doing much as per usual. Maybe, before Hodi, let just the weak people in the crew fight to let them show off. Have the threat of the giant ship and all, but make it quicker! Eliminate stuff like anyone being captured by the island military, or the fight with Hodi being broken into multiple parts. Do not make each of the side-fights be as long as they were. In short, make the story maybe 1/3 the size it was. Instead of a long series of curbstomps, a very quick thing.


Most recent arc- don't downgrade Taishigi's personality. Also, don't give Zoro a general 'doesn't hit girls' weakness. If you want Taishigi to do a strike in that fight, have it be, Zoro saying "I'd strike you down myself, but it looks like someone intends to beat me to it," or, I dunno, something more personal between him and Taishigi, like "If you're going to have my friend's face you need to live up to it." Not as bad as Fishman island, just ditch the sexism.


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But she didn't break down crying when she lost! And get mad a foe is showing her mercy.

There's being weak and then there's acting like that, despite being a New World Captain!

It's ok if a character loses and curses their weakness, or is just weak but otherwise useful, but she seems to have become less disciplined and less competent over the skip.

shes a woman. Women are weak. You should know this by now.

Want something done right you gotta send a swinging dick

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I'll just use this next time I get into an argument on best/worst representation of the sexes in the big series smile


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Bleach is still the best by far by the way.


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