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Minato vs Itachi
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psycho gundam
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technically, tobi has better genjutsu feats when it comes to controlling people.


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I dont remember a moment when Tobi controlled someone, can you tell me when?


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Yagura, the 4th Mizukage.

Itachi could have done the same thing, except from outside Kirigakure.


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First of all, who is better in Sharingan abilities, Tobi or Itachi?


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Itachi. He has mangekyo....


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Originally posted by ichigo12
First of all, who is better in Sharingan abilities, Tobi or Itachi?


Tobi - Izanagi, S/T Migration, Kotoamatsukami-like jutsu.

Itachi - Izanami, Susano'o, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and access to Koto. And there's a chance he knows how to perform Izanagi as well.

S/T Migration is the most broken thing here (apart from Izanagi/Izanami), but Itachi's Sharingan is more well-rounded due to him being able to access MS.


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Maybe Tobi can enter too in MS mode, but he has not showed it.


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Well, I'm glad the winner has been decided smile

http://images.wikia.com/naruto/es/i...to_Namikaze.png


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by ichigo12
Well, I'm glad the winner has been decided smile

http://images.wikia.com/naruto/es/i...to_Namikaze.png


You, sir, are correct. smile


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So Minato wins but with difficulty or without?


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I say he wins with effort, but not difficulty.


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Lol?

The best argument for Minato has been based entirely on him somehow being able to get passed the initial combo genjutsu by Itachi. It won't happen. Minato will die one way or another. Either from having his mind torn apart or his body torn apart.


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Originally posted by Damborgson
Lol?

The best argument for Minato has been based entirely on him somehow being able to get passed the initial combo genjutsu by Itachi. It won't happen. Minato will die one way or another. Either from having his mind torn apart or his body torn apart.



Here is how it goes and why you fail:

Sasuke barely won against Itachi and Itachi went all out...Itachi even used Amaterasu which he is not doing against Kabuto, currently. He realy was pushing sasuke to his limits and could have easily killed Sasuke.

B made a far more powerful version of Sasuke and all of team hawk look like fools and toys.

Minato made both A and B at the same time look like fools. (B may have gotten a bit stronger since that time, but not by much. A is about the same.)


By the powers invested in me, I now pronounce you pwned.


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A>B

B>C

A>C?


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Originally posted by dadudemon
Here is how it goes and why you fail:

Sasuke barely won against Itachi and Itachi went all out...Itachi even used Amaterasu which he is not doing against Kabuto, currently. He realy was pushing sasuke to his limits and could have easily killed Sasuke.

B made a far more powerful version of Sasuke and all of team hawk look like fools and toys.

Minato made both A and B at the same time look like fools. (B may have gotten a bit stronger since that time, but not by much. A is about the same.)


By the powers invested in me, I now pronounce you pwned.


What the f**k?

lets look past the flawed ABC logic, and um....the rest of the nonsense.

A nearly blind and Holding back Itachi who purposely extended the fight to get rid of Sasuke's curse mark and had no intention winning lost to Sasuke.

The Same B who was getting raped by the Amaterasu lol? In 8 tails for btw?

Younger less powerful versions...

That was quite the self pwn actually.


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I think this sums it up pretty well.


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Even if it was the younger versions Minato pwned both of them fast while B alone pwned Taka completely.


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What!?
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Originally posted by ichigo12
Even if it was the younger versions Minato pwned both of them fast while B alone pwned Taka completely.




He owned A. Bee and Minato were left in a stalemate, the resolution of which we never saw. This occurred over 17 years before current events. A & B would have gotten a fair bit stronger since then.

That shit aside, Bee stomped a Sasuke that was nowhere near as powerful as he was when he fought a near-blind, holding back, on-his-deathbed Itachi.
He was still in the midst of recovering from the thrashing Itachi gave him, and he had lost Orochimaru's abilities as well as the abilities the Cursed Seal gave him, which were massive amps. All he got in return was a weak-ass genjutsu that would have owned Bee had it not been for his complete mastery over the Hachibi.

If you want me to come up with ridiculous logic, I can simply point to how Itachi briefly clashed with Bee & Naruto, and neither of them could even touch him, proving that he is every bit as fast as they are. When Nagato easily owned Naruto & Bee, Itachi proceeded to save their asses, and was the reason they were able to win.

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ABC logic is weak in Naruto-verse in most cases because there is a Rock-Paper-Scissors type system that Kishi employs.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Damborgson
I think this sums it up pretty well.


Yeah, I saw Cogito using it as a response to one of Quanchi's typical posts, and I liked the gif. stick out tongue

It fit here pretty well.


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