I dont remember a moment when Tobi controlled someone, can you tell me when?
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Itachi could have done the same thing, except from outside Kirigakure.
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First of all, who is better in Sharingan abilities, Tobi or Itachi?
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Itachi - Izanami, Susano'o, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and access to Koto. And there's a chance he knows how to perform Izanagi as well.
S/T Migration is the most broken thing here (apart from Izanagi/Izanami), but Itachi's Sharingan is more well-rounded due to him being able to access MS.
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Last edited by Demonic Phoenix on Apr 17th, 2012 at 11:06 PM
Maybe Tobi can enter too in MS mode, but he has not showed it.
__________________ -Signature property of DeathKap- "... If fate is a millstone, then we are the grist. There is nothing we can do. So I wish for strength. If I cannot protect them from the wheel, then give me a strong blade, and enough strength... to shatter fate."
__________________ -Signature property of DeathKap- "... If fate is a millstone, then we are the grist. There is nothing we can do. So I wish for strength. If I cannot protect them from the wheel, then give me a strong blade, and enough strength... to shatter fate."
__________________ -Signature property of DeathKap- "... If fate is a millstone, then we are the grist. There is nothing we can do. So I wish for strength. If I cannot protect them from the wheel, then give me a strong blade, and enough strength... to shatter fate."
The best argument for Minato has been based entirely on him somehow being able to get passed the initial combo genjutsu by Itachi. It won't happen. Minato will die one way or another. Either from having his mind torn apart or his body torn apart.
Sasuke barely won against Itachi and Itachi went all out...Itachi even used Amaterasu which he is not doing against Kabuto, currently. He realy was pushing sasuke to his limits and could have easily killed Sasuke.
B made a far more powerful version of Sasuke and all of team hawk look like fools and toys.
Minato made both A and B at the same time look like fools. (B may have gotten a bit stronger since that time, but not by much. A is about the same.)
By the powers invested in me, I now pronounce you pwned.
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Even if it was the younger versions Minato pwned both of them fast while B alone pwned Taka completely.
__________________ -Signature property of DeathKap- "... If fate is a millstone, then we are the grist. There is nothing we can do. So I wish for strength. If I cannot protect them from the wheel, then give me a strong blade, and enough strength... to shatter fate."
__________________ -Signature property of DeathKap- "... If fate is a millstone, then we are the grist. There is nothing we can do. So I wish for strength. If I cannot protect them from the wheel, then give me a strong blade, and enough strength... to shatter fate."
He owned A. Bee and Minato were left in a stalemate, the resolution of which we never saw. This occurred over 17 years before current events. A & B would have gotten a fair bit stronger since then.
That shit aside, Bee stomped a Sasuke that was nowhere near as powerful as he was when he fought a near-blind, holding back, on-his-deathbed Itachi.
He was still in the midst of recovering from the thrashing Itachi gave him, and he had lost Orochimaru's abilities as well as the abilities the Cursed Seal gave him, which were massive amps. All he got in return was a weak-ass genjutsu that would have owned Bee had it not been for his complete mastery over the Hachibi.
If you want me to come up with ridiculous logic, I can simply point to how Itachi briefly clashed with Bee & Naruto, and neither of them could even touch him, proving that he is every bit as fast as they are. When Nagato easily owned Naruto & Bee, Itachi proceeded to save their asses, and was the reason they were able to win.
ABC logic is weak in Naruto-verse in most cases because there is a Rock-Paper-Scissors type system that Kishi employs.
Yeah, I saw Cogito using it as a response to one of Quanchi's typical posts, and I liked the gif.
It fit here pretty well.
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