To elaborate, Tobi has the strongest creatures in the series doing his bidding and Minato can only do so much porting before he gets tired. Added onto the fact that he already had a hard time tagging Tobi before? He isn't winning lol. Not with the Bijuu and Paths backing him up. Minato simply lacks the showings to do anything. Sure, he'd be a ***** to hit but so what? He has to run out sometime and the people he is fighting are all but immortal. He literally has nothing that can do anything to Tobi except his Death God thing. Tobi is effectively the strongest "living" character proper in the story.
Madara is the strongest character in the story, surpassed only by the Sage's myth feats. He is a guy able to keep up with A, block Tsunade's punches, and basically take on the 5 Kage as if they were nothing. Minato has nothing to beat Susano'o while Madara packs an impressive arsenal due to his Senju powers and Rinnegan. Again, Minato would be a ***** to tag but he would have to run the whole fight and, well, you can't win a fight that way.
Current Naruto kicks DBZ style energy blasts away from point blank range and boasts what is probably the best chakra sensing in the series. Minato gets near him, it's over. And unlike the other two, Naruto can certainly go toe to toe with him in the speed category.
These 3 are currently the strongest characters in the series while Minato is arguably not the strongest Hokage(I think Hashirama is but that's a whole other can of worms). Minato is easily one of my favorite characters but he is not the strongest lol.
And nah, I'm not entering a debate. I'm just flaunting my awesome.
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On Madara- geesh, can you imagine how much a nightmare it'd be for Minato to fight a foe with *that* many high-level clones to watch his back? Ones that apparently are almost entirely undistinguishable from the original?
Somewhat, but Madara's far more important to the overall plot now, and has been built up & hyped for a lot longer than Yammy was.
Ichigo's posse have definitely fallen into the shadows. It was evident in the latter stages of the Fake Karakura arc, as well as the Full-bring arc, but Kubo sucking at pacing his plot and fights, especially after SS, is what did it for me.
Yes, it is. If it is half as good as SS was, and Uryu has a significant presence in this arc, I'll be pleased.
Yes. Reasonable to assume as such when Animal Path summons & the Outer Path contribute to the Rinnegan's shared field of vision.
26 Susano'o on the field with Minato having no way of knowing which one is the real one, unless he keeps his eyes on the real one as he makes the clones? Yeah, Minato gets gangbanged.
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But it is because he is fast enough to make killing blows against each of them. Naruto is the only one that can equal him in speed but Naruto lacks the deftness and quickness of complex attacks like Minato has.
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When has Minato shown to get tired from teleporting? It could just as easily be said the other way since sharingan/rinnegan attacks are more taxing than regular attacks so that argument doesn't sound right to me. Also how did he have a hard time tagging him before? he found the opening and hit him with great success as I recall. He was also able to slap a seal on him as well. He can run until the oppurtunity presents itself. Tobi can't disappear for ever ther is a limit. The few seconds it takes to recover will be all the time he needs to catch a rasengan in the back. The fight could really go either way.
Madara is a tough call just because of susano. If Minato can somehow seal away susano momentarily, he could have a chance. Other than that, without seeing anymore jutsus from Minato, this fight probably goes to Madara.
I don't think it is arguable at all that Minato is the strongest hokage. What have the other hokage shown that makes you think otherwise? Hiruzen looks like the toughest challenge and I don't think he could keep up with the speed of Minato. haven't seen anything on the first so it's really hard to include him. Or the second Hokage for the matter. Tsunade would get pwned easily.
I agree with everything including the Madara + Susano'o part. If Minato cannot get around Susnao'o, his only option is to play a ware of attrition where Madara wears himself down by burning up his chakra.
I no know why Tobi was saying that he could kill Naruto a few chapters later. Makes sense. He has enough kyuubi chakra, it would appear. What does this mean? Maybe you only need a bit, not all, of the chakra from each of the beasts to revive the 10-tails and combine he chakra beasts. Dunno.
i think he could get around susan'o. He can put seals anywhere it seems. he can put seals on the ground essentially booby trapping the area as he moves around. He can form seals in the air like he did to teleport the beast ball and Kurama himself. He has so many options based on his skillset that overwhelm pretty much anyone.
Forgot about his air-seal against the biju-ball. That would come in handy. Seems he knows how to seal chakra, as well. I guess he could seal a chakra based construct like Susano'o, but that would be speculation. It's not baseless speculation, but it is not provable.
It makes sense since tialed beast ball is just two forms of chakra, but you're right it is speculation. However he was able to seal half of Kurama's power away forever or so he said, and then seal the rest in Naruto.
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