OMG, The figth between the Kages was at the beginning of the series ad Kishi didn't even planned to put Hasirama on screen. Proofs of the beginning is bullshit (sorry for this word). Give me a proof that is near were the manga currently is, and then I will accept it.
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Dude, you never have to apologize for your language. Just don't try to bypass the censor and it will take care of your naughty words that are not acceptable.
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You're fine.
Come on, now. You have google and it works. This isn't science and it isn't philosophy: you have the internet and awesome search engines. Just use those instead of asking for us to spend 30 minutes google searching and reading for you. Most of us did that already.
I feel like if you're going to use a source to back up your assertion, it's the decent thing to provide that source for cross-examination. Your opponent shouldn't have to go about helping you form your own argument.
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While the one I found for Hashirama called him the "Pinnacle of Shinobi."
Granted, I was under a time limit and the second link was asking about the third databook(unless you meant sub-link, which was a discussion thread for IV databook). But the only Kage I found databook 1 translations for was Minato(which was kinda hilarious in its own right).
Blax is right, I'm not going to provide your proof for you. Neither will I be condescended to by a man too lazy and incompetent to back up his arguments. If you claim that a source supports your case then provide it or shut up.
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Last edited by Nephthys on Apr 23rd, 2012 at 03:28 PM
Turns out the info I got was Databook 3. Here is, apparently, the translations for databook 2 info concerning Hiruzen and all the info I found concerning him in the first databook can be found here.
Here is the databook 1 info for Hashirama and here is his databook 2 info(that I could find. And I'll even give all the databook 3 info I could find here.
Why is it that Hashirama's information makes a point of praising and hyping his strength in battle, while Sarutobi's is more about him being a totally cool old dude?
Probably because Sarutobi's big accomplishments seems to be running the village for so long.
Also, while I'm sure the others were pretty smart, Sarutobi was the actual leader for two whole Shinobi world wars and the tail end of the first. So it's his leadership that's super famous.
Being the 'professor,' I'd assume if you got all five Kage together, he should be the one actually in charge making plans, while Hashirama would merely be at the front.
Yes, that is exactly what it is. You said that the databook says he's the strongest Hokage and then failed to provide the quote to back it up. You expect me to provide it for you? Good joke, but no dice. Its pretty clear to me that no such quote actually exists and you're once again trolling a thread for your amusement and wasting my time.
In which case, my point stands uncontested. There is nothing that states that Sarutobi was the strongest Hokage. Therefore it stands to reason that he was not.
How is it a 'new way of trolling?' Rofl, providing evidence for your claim is the most basic part of a debate. If you don't even know that then why did you even try to take me on?
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Last edited by Nephthys on Apr 23rd, 2012 at 08:21 PM
Well there isn't nothing strictly Neph. Iruka did say that people considered him the strongest of the Hokage and Kabuto did say he was the strongest of the current 5 Kage. However, both of these statements seemed based on hearsay, rather than strict fact.
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