Debatable I think. And he's absorbed larger quantities, quicker than he did against the Presence. The duration and energy capacity of Mjolnir varies from writer and story but the one constant is that when shit is on the line, whether he's facing mundane or cosmic forces, he never fails.
Not sure why they wouldn't be included simply because Marduk and the Wrecking Crew gain their powers from mystical God energy. While I'd wager that Mjolnir has a preference for such power, any doubt of Mjolnir affecting energy on a different spectrum -with equal effectiveness- has been crushed. Basically, it's note worthy.
Fair point about Ghaur I guess, not sure why X-ray being empowered by radiation is distinction that changes something and what the God Blast has to do with this (Willingness is not my point of contention if that was the point).
Not sure about draining individuals specifically or whatever, I simply remember Mjolnir's ability to absorb energy from various directions being discussed.
Like I said.
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Yes, but when the argument is about draining energy out of beings... and the Presence still stands as one of the few instances where he's beaten a being fully by draining that we've seen in full. The other is the Robot you just posted (no timeframe), possibly Marduk although I'm not sure of that, X-Ray while he was releasing blasts, and removing the enchantment from the Wrecker.
None of these characters have as much energy as Surfer stored within them... of course, he's not the most reliable, but still.
Oh I realize. But in those two instances, Thor was pissed about them having Asgardian magic/power at their command.
Because radiation isn't just simple energy. It's not just a "zap and heal", it's ****ing radiation.
Remember when you jumped into answering posts? Ya, will was entirely my point in these instances. I'm not going to change my stance just because you didn't care to read an entire post.
Thor draining characters all factors included has been done about as many times as a Godblast.
"I disagree with abhi's stance, but I like Thor so I'm going to back up his stance."
I figured you were simply talking about him whirlwinding energy down into his hammer like he's done to the gamma bomb, and the like.
Only the top two are relevant, and the rest are really no different than just draining blasts. The first one's hilarious. Drawing in magnetic energy to magnetize a robot ftw.
And the second one involves him figuring out it was pretty much electricity.
Basically, judging by this, do you think Thor could drain Surfer if Surfer was flying around trying to avoid Thor?
Your posts have irked me enough to finish my wall of text to abi though
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he also says his mind is clearing. i really have no idea what really happened there. you're welcome to your interpretation. it's meaningless anyway. tech-related drains can and have worked to varying degrees anyway.
but he was weakened and was still able to overcome it. that was the point. as was his ability to use his speed to avoid an attack. if you're going the whole aoe energy drain route, you're in a lot of trouble since you need to show thor draining in some wide areas. and any time i've seen him drain the energy source is either standing still right in front of him or the energy is swirling around him--in both cases he is very close to the source and the source is not actively trying to avoid it. i said already if ss stands there and says--hey thor, wanna try and drain me? i'd say thor could probably do so, assuming ss didn't try and defend in any way.
one of the best is this one where he does what even ss fails to do:
reed's devices in the past were also designed with ss in mind. wasn't the energy siphon prepped as well when it was used against ss?
no, i don't think it would necessarily follow that if thor tried some aoe drain that a focussed blast at the ground or something would automatically 'suck in the bolt'. seriously. you're acting like it's going to be some energy magnet. i don't see that being the case--AT ALL. nor have i ever seen it behave that way and CERTAINLY never in the midst of a battle like this one would be. it's like you think......thor sticks up his hammer, ss enters some indefensible event horizon created by this energy vacuum you've built up. but you have no idea how far out the event horizon extends, and you seem to think it impossible for ss to deal with if it did happen 1/100 times. teleporting. bull-rushing. back attack with baord. tp assault (more likely than this hilarious energy vacuum you are trying to establish), random blast to break contact. simply willing himself past it or just ignoring it like he did against quasar. all are at least as likely as his falling prey to this imaginary drain you're talking about.
not sure, tbh. i'd need to go back and look. honestly, i'm too damn lazy to pull out my books. what issue was it anyway?
that's pretty subjective and would need to be discussed on a case-by-case basis. some random space pirates beating him is pretty retarded though. given his level of displayed cosmic awareness, pis may apply to ss more than any character in comics besides flash.
you'll always get that. the people who i find worse are the ones who go AGAINST a character because that characters idiot fans make said character out to be stupidly awesome. fanboys can wreck characters. how many people here hate hulk, thanos and logan not because of the characters, but because of the people who typically represent them to the nth degree? even thor and superman fall into that category. and it's easy to do. i know, i've fallen into the trap more than once.
i think that scan was actually kang though. and it did happen to wrecker, just not there.
oi vey...
you're free to believe what you'd like so long as you know the unilord saga IS fair game in any forum discussion.
noticed you skipped my question about this imaginary energy vacuum and it's ability to instantly drain the energy from superman.....
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