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My point was that Fox can make more off the Xmen movie than they would loose from the FF films, or any future plans that Fox would have with them.
Aug 13th, 2015 03:32 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Considering the failure of the last 2 FF films, Fox should've just let the rights go.
Considering they were flops, the rights would've been pretty cheap to buy back when Fox was truly ready to attempt a proper version.
Nah the last 2 made money (the first one was very profitable). This is their first flop. But now no one will be interested in seeing a sequel or a reboot, so buying FF back shouldn't cost much.
Then again Marvel may be content just waiting Fox out and letting the rights return for nothing.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Personally I've lost interest in the XMen franchise. Don't care if it's a young Magneto or an older version (both played by great actors), the same villain just got tedious in every XMen movie.
I felt that was the problem with the Original X-Men Trilogy. But the new FC trilogy has had a new big bad in each movie (Sebastian Shaw, Sentinels, Apocalypse). It's good to always have Magneto around as a potential secondary threat, or a potential ally. He was mostly an ally in FC.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Quincy
I don't think the X-Men have had their truly great and deserved film. And sadly I dont think they ever will
Hard to disagree with this though when we just look at their treatment of Cyclops.
Aug 13th, 2015 03:35 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
Hard to disagree with this though when we just look at their treatment of Cyclops.
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First Class is probably the best X-men film to date. At least in my personal opinion. Days of Future Past was decent, but First Class was the film that really revitalised the franchise after the failures of X3 and Origins: Wolverine. And hopefully they will handle Cyclops better in the next film, but I don't have my hopes up. They seem to hate the Summers brothers.
As to Fantastic Four, I can't help but wonder how different it would have been if Fox hadn't apparently decided to cut 3 of the 4 major action set pieces right before filming was supposed to kick off. A big complaint from a lot of people is that there are periods in the film where nothing happens.
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Aug 13th, 2015 04:24 PM
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More ownage from RT.
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"The cinematic equivalent of malware". Lol.
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quote: Fox's Fantastic Four took another shot to the Trank with a 68% dropoff from its feeble $26.2M opening for $8M in 4,004 theaters, $1,998 per screen. As far as biggest, 2nd-week drop offs for Marvel-themed films it's worse than Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, which dropped 65.5% its second weekend and nearly took the title away from 2005's Elektra and 2009's X-Men Origins: Wolverine, both with 69% and the Marvel, face-plant champ, 2003's Hulk, with 69.7%.
Except all those other ones started much higher, save for Elektra, which cost much less.
We don't know FF's precise budget, but this is looking to be a legendary bomb.
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They should just shoot anyone who suggests using Doom again, because they cannot get him right. Not really a fan of the Herald idea either, but the rest of Slater's movie sounds better than what we ended up with.
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Aug 19th, 2015 08:04 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
They should just shoot anyone who suggests using Doom again,
They should shoot anyone who suggests them doing an FF Movie again. Move on, sell it back to Marvel, and concentrate on their X-Men franchise.
Aug 19th, 2015 12:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
They should shoot anyone who suggests them doing an FF Movie again. Move on, sell it back to Marvel, and concentrate on their X-Men franchise.
Well, I still have faith (yeah, I am an idealistic fool) that a good FF movie could be made by Fox. They have put out good comic book movies before, so there should be no valid excuse why they cannot manage the FF. But they need to stop interfering at every corner, and let the people who are actually on set making the movie, make the f****** movie. The same kind of interference happened during X-men Origins: Wolverine, and that tanked as well, so Fox should really know better.
But I do agree though. Better option is sell the rights back to Marvel. Exchange it for a green light on their X-men TV series or something.
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quote: [I]If you love behind the scenes drama, Fantastic Four is the gift which keeps on giving. The Hollywood Reporter has an in-depth article up about how Josh Trank allegedly behaved on set, and it sounds like the director was most definitely to blame for how the reboot turned out.
After sending an email to select members of the cast days before the movie was released in which he said Fantastic Four was "better than 99 percent of the comic-book movies ever made," he received a response from one cast member with only: "I don’t think so." Ouch.
With Fox furious about his now deleted Tweet about the movie, the trade reveals that pit-bull lawyer Marty Singer has been hired to advocate on Trank's behalf. So, what exactly happened on set? Here are the highlights:
Trank apparently didn't produce good enough material to ever create a film which could be salvaged, and refused help from the studio and producers. "He holed up in a tent and cut himself off from everybody," one insider tells the site. "He built a black tent around his monitor. He was extremely withdrawn. [He] would go to his trailer and he wouldn’t interact with anybody."
While Fox initially had faith in Trank's vision of a grounded and gritty Fantastic Four movie, it appears as if the filmmaker took that too far as he forced a gloomy tone on the movie by obsessing over the cast's performance. "During takes, he would be telling [cast members] when to blink and when to breathe. He kept pushing them to make the performance as flat as possible."
You may remember some time ago that Josh Trank and his dogs were accused of causing as much as $100,000 worth of damage to a house which was rented for him in Baton Rouge by Fox. After landlord Martin Padial made moves to evict the director, "photographs of the landlord’s family that were in the house were defaced. Padial made a complaint to the local sheriff’s department and filed a civil suit in Louisiana that is sealed.The sheriff’s department says the case was 'closed as a civil matter between landlord and tenant.'"
Before you completely blame Trank for how Fantastic Four turned out, one source says that the movie was always "ill-conceived, made for the wrong reasons and there was no vision behind the property." Fox were terrified of losing the rights to Marvel and the reboot was in chaos before shooting even started. They "were afraid of losing the rights so they pressed forward and didn’t surround [Trank] with help or fire him. They buried their heads in the sand."
While they initially considered firing Trank, Fox had faith in the director and believed he could be the next J.J. Abrams. However, as it became apparent that he couldn't cope with the movie, it was simply to late to ditch him. "How do you ask someone to take over half of a movie shot by someone else? You either hire somebody desperate for work or you [start over], write off pretty much the whole budget and lose the cast." Fair point!
Those reshoots have been blamed for the poor quality of Fantastic Four, but the movie apparently didn't even have an ending when shooting concluded. Simon Kinberg and Hutch Parker scrambled to come up with something, but the former's busy schedule and the fact that much of the cast was unavailable led to "a lot of material was shot with doubles and the production moved to Los Angeles to film scenes with Teller against a green screen. 'It was chaos,' says a crew member, adding that Trank was still in attendance 'but was neutralized by a committee.'"
Who was responsible for that terrible ending and second act? Fox reportedly put together a dream team to rescue the move, and that included Drew Goddard. Whatever he and the rest of that team did obviously failed horribly! [I]
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Shut up, Kaz.
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The film was bad but worst film of the year?
Give me a break.
Feb 28th, 2016 05:11 AM
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Still not seen the film, but sounds like typical critics exaggerating.
Did make me Lol though that FF and 50 Shades of Grey are tied for worst picture. And I suppose point of Razzies is for a bit of a joke.
Feb 29th, 2016 01:09 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
Still not seen the film, but sounds like typical critics exaggerating.
It was pretty bad Darth. They aren't far off.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
Still not seen the film, but sounds like typical critics exaggerating.
Did make me Lol though that FF and 50 Shades of Grey are tied for worst picture. And I suppose point of Razzies is for a bit of a joke.
It was terrible. I watched it for free and still want my money back.
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Only thing i really remember from the movie is what Doom looks like.
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