im not knowledgeable about the show that much, but i did love the movie.... what i know is james t. kirk the main character was originally played by william shatner who is jewish
and chris pine has russian jewish origins as well
now i know this means absolutely nothing, the actor's religion/ethnicity does not= the character's ethnicity... but i was just wondering
does it ever mention kirk's religion... is he jewish.. is he christian....? is he atheist, seeing as he travels to many planets and stuff..?
is kirk just a typical white guy born in riverside iowa (wikipedia is helpful sometimes..lol)
Yeah, Earth in the future is highly not religious.
There was an episode of ST:TNG where the Enterprise lands on a planet inhabited by a primitive Vulcan-like race; it deals with how they did away with religion despite still being at a stone-age level of technology and how fear can lead back to religion/belief.
Captain Picard makes some comment on how they'd be transgressing if they started to believe in make-believe beings (gods) again.
The religiosity of Federation Earth or lack thereof is inconsistent, but Roddenberry always intended the people of the Federation to be essentially non-religious but open minded. I think though that (as many otherwise non-religious people are) Roddenberry was still influenced by certain Christian sensibilities, and this was compounded in TOS by network interference. (The ending of Bread and Circuses is almost a Christian tract--the world they visited is "saved" because the Gospel of Christ is upon them).
It's a bit like Phillip Pullman, author of His Dark Materials. At one point he said "Yes, I'm an atheist, but I'm a Church of England Atheist."
An interesting moment comes in DS9 where Sisko's father quotes the Bible and there's the slight suggestion that he actually believes the words. Of course that was a weird (but good) episode, and Deep Space Nine is the Trek series that's defined by breaking all the rules of what constitutes a Trek series.
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to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
"There are thick mirk-woods on ilka side; the river, dark an’ awesome, an’ whirling round an’ round in mossy eddies, sweeps away behind it; an’ there is an auld burying-ground, wi’ the broken ruins o’ an auld Papist kirk, on the tap. Ane can see amang the rougher stanes the rose-wrought mullions of an arched window, an’ the trough that ance held the holy water."
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“Where the longleaf pines are whispering
to him who loved them so.
Where the faint murmurs now dwindling
echo o’er tide and shore."
-A Grave Epitaph in Santa Rosa County, Florida; I wish I could remember the man's name.
Picard on religion, in general and him dispelling that he's not a Supreme Being:
(Again, Patrick Stewart shows why he is such a great actor).
Picard realizes Q is not God because he believes in some sort of intelligent guiding hand in the universe (something he views Q incapable of doing):
Picard also had a very eloquent soliloquy regarding God, Afterlife, etc. I cannot find a youtube vid. It is TNG: Where Silence has a Lease. Picard believes in a superior form of an afterlife. One that is not "nothingness" and one that is not as simple as a "heaven-hell" result. He's a Mormon. hahahaha
Kirk believes in a God and it's Picard. This is why when they eventually meet up, Kirk sacrifices himself for Picard. All hail and then tug down your shirt.
Kirk ventures through what he perceives before him.
If it is an infinite form of a collective consciousness/subconsciousness then he will most probably still question its meaning. And in return the infinite will thank him for it as he becomes one with it.
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