That's what I've been trying to say. And the fight takes place in the Himalayas as well. Bobby could become a hundreds of foot tall ice golem that snap freezes everything he touches.
You realize that even at the Himalayas, there is MORE earth and rock there than ice/water right?
Again, what's stopping GF from bubbling Iceman and burying him inside the Earth's molten core? Or burying him under hundreds of thousands of tons of earth?
The fact that Iceman can make copies of himself and transfer his consciousness between them, or even simply exist as a mist form. He's shifted between bodies so fast that Bastion was in the middle of attacking him and didn't realize he'd created a copy.
And it's not about the ice, it's about the temperature and moisture in the air. It's really cold in the Himalayas, and that helps Iceman out a lot.
Tell me this. What's to stop Iceman from snap freezing Geo Forces brain and blood?
Tell me this, does GF even have blood and organs in Earth form? Why wouldn't GF's gravity shields stop IM's power? What's to stop GF from using his thermal powers to offset IM's heat sapping abilities? How would IM get out of being buried under millions of tons of earth? Or encapsulated within a gravity bubble?
You're not listening. You keep bringing up the same points over and over.
1. I don't know if GF has blood or organs in earth form, but does he use it enough to constitute to this fight? And even if he does, Iceman can still freeze him solid.
2. His gravity shields wouldn't stop his power because he directly affects him, meaning he bypasses the shields.
3. Don't GF's "thermal powers" encompass shooting lava blasts, and that's it, or has he done more? Either way, any "heat" projection can instantly have all heat sapped from it. The lava for example would turn into stone, then frozen stone.
4. When he's fully ice, he's no longer human. He's a psionic consciousness inhabiting a shell made completely of ice. If that ice gets buried, he can simply make another body and transfer his consciousness, like transferring save files from a computer to a jump drive.
5. If he tries to put him in a gravity bubble, he can once again, form another body, and transfer his consciousness.
1) Freeze him solid? And? Earth/rock is already in a solid state. Freezing it isn't going to affect Ge0 Force at all.
2) You know this how? So you telling me IM's abilities would affect Graviton or Magneto or IW through their shields? Sweet, proof?
3) Lava turned to stone? Then frozen stone?! OMG! Wait, wtf is frozen stone? Stone by definition is already a SOLID. Freezing it isn't going to do anything more to it.
4)/5) Proof? Proof he can escape being completely encapsulated inside a bubble of gravity/force?
Ok, so that would affect him through gravity shields? Does IM have any on panel showings that have him affecting people through shields of any kind? TK, Magnetic, Gravity, etc...?
I don't have to prove anything, just look in his respect thread. Everything I've said has already been proven for me.
1. Frozen solid means freezing something, whether it be a liquid, solid, or gas, completely. Freezing Geo Force means he wouldn't be able to move.
2. He's never directly attacked people like that through their shields, as in comics he mainly relies on his ice blasts and creativity. But he's done similar things to other people. But in a forum fight, he could and would do so.
3. You obviously don't get it. When lava cools it becomes stone correct? Well he's yanking all the heat directly out of it, so it would turn into stone and freeze as a result.
4/5. I'll give you this one. A couple scans showing him inhabiting multiple bodies at the same time.
As a psionic consciousness, there's nothing there for the force field to keep out. He's brainwaves, thought patterns. A mind in an intangible energy form.
1) Dude stone is already in a SOLID state. Freezing it any more doesn't make any difference to it.
2) So you have zero proof his abilities would work through shields of any kind?
3) Yes, freeze lava into stone. That will SURELY show GEOforce who's boss!
4)/5) You have no proof his powers work THROUGH shields. Once bubbled what can he possibly do? Nothing. Even if he doesn't bubble, the best IM can hope for would be an endless stalemate.
Then surely there must be an example of this on panel somewhere? It doesn't even have to be vs Gravity shields. It can be vs any type of shield/bubble (TK, Magic, Magnetic, Force, etc...) and I'll accept it.
Hey, you're the one who keeps asking for a feat that isn't necessary since this is logic. How bout you show a scan of Geo Force trapping somebodies thought processes.
It doesn't work that way. You are the one claiming he's a being of pure psionic energy and can't be encapsulated and BFRed. Show me a scan of him bypassing shields of ANY kind and I'll agree you have a point. Until then, you have nothing.
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