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It looked as though he used it as a conductor and amped his lightning, it showed a close up of the building and his lightning flowing through the tower and then he channeled it through himself. Makes sense iirc his lightning was never that destructive even in his own film and why cling to the building when he could have just as easily used his flight.


Yea, I just re-watched the scene and the lightning was channeled directly into Mjolnir, and then directed at the invading aliens.

I'm not sure how the building would have amped the attack. It was lit up, but because of the excess lightning traveling through Thor/Mjolnir and into the building.

Also, I never noticed how huge the blast was. Right before we cut away, the bolt had grown so big it was comparable to the Leviathan in size.

Maybe landing on the building was more comfortable or made the whole thing easier, not sure.


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the building charge up thor's lightning by attacking as a conductor...without the building thor's lightning would be less powerful and the duration would not be as long as the building acted essentially as a battery


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Thor landed on a pretty small ledge on that building it looked like he was using one hand keep his balance and the other to point his hammer.It also looked to me that the lightning around the building was a side effect of him calling the strike.

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What are you talking about?

I'm watching the scene right now. Thor summons the lightning into Mjolnir and the excessive electricity jumps through Thor/Mjolnir, electrifying the building.

How is the building a battery? Do you know what that word means?

The material of the building was conductive but I don't understand how that would amp the attack either. The reason it was flowing with an electrical charge was because of the energy Thor summoned, his attack didn't profit in power from it.


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What are you talking about?

I'm watching the scene right now. Thor summons the lightning into Mjolnir and the excessive electricity jumps through Thor/Mjolnir, electrifying the building.

How is the building a battery? Do you know what that word means?

The material of the building was conductive but I don't understand how that would amp the attack either.
the building channeled and stored lightning...essentially allowing thor to fire a much more powerful and concentrated blast...I think the movie makes it pretty obvious the building contributed to thor's most powerful attack. if i remember correctly, they specifically showed the lightning currents going up and down the building to indicated that it was storing it for one huge unleashing by thor.


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I feel like it helped him spread the Lighting out since he had to blow up a bunch of small ships. I feel like his usual blast was the concentrated shot that destroyed multiple leviathan things.

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also, no one here has mentioned the scene where hulk hilariously one-shots thor...essentially bfrs him as thor doesn't return


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also, no one here has mentioned the scene where hulk hilariously one-shots thor...essentially bfrs him as thor doesn't return
You're seriously not trying to use that as a real feat are you?


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You're seriously not trying to use that as a real feat are you?
not on its own...but it adds to the body of evidence that hulk is superior to thor in the movie

it demonstrates hulk's power as the punch was a very casual side punch with no windup...the fact that it BFRed thor instead of nudging him was impressive


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not on its own...but it adds to the body of evidence that hulk is superior to thor in the movie

it demonstrates hulk's power as the punch was a very casual side punch with no windup...the fact that it BFRed thor instead of nudging him was impressive
You mean a super strong guy punched someone, who maybe weighed 300 pounds at most, sent them flying and you're trying to use that to show Hulk being superior?

I mean it wasn't like we saw Thor a moments later already attacking other aliens or anything looking no worse for wear... oh wait we did.


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not on its own...but it adds to the body of evidence that hulk is superior to thor in the movie

it demonstrates hulk's power as the punch was a very casual side punch with no windup...the fact that it BFRed thor instead of nudging him was impressive


Did you not think it was for comic relief?

Did you really want to see Thor forget about the aliens and loki and come back and whallop Hulk?

Also If I just fought a monster side by side with an ally I probably wouldn't think he would slug me right after killing a flying monster...

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You mean a super strong guy punched someone, who maybe weighed 300 pounds at most, sent them flying and you're trying to use that to show Hulk being superior?

I mean it wasn't like we saw Thor a moments later already attacking other aliens or anything looking no worse for wear... oh wait we did.
whether you like it or not newjak, it happened.

i highly doubt that if thor did the same casual punch he could've knocked hulk offscreen.

it is a strength feat for hulk.


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You mean a super strong guy punched someone, who maybe weighed 300 pounds at most, sent them flying and you're trying to use that to show Hulk being superior?

I mean it wasn't like we saw Thor a moments later already attacking other aliens or anything looking no worse for wear... oh wait we did.


yup

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Yeah I know Ironman's laser's couldn't even break through their armor either.

Thor's attack not only did that but was forcing 2-3 of the creature's back. It was like everyone of the lightning bolts was doing singularly doing equal or greater than what one full powered Hulk Haymaker managed.

It doesn't make sense considering Thor basically nuked the Frost Giant's landscape in his own movie rather easily.

What does make sense is that Thor was just bracing on the building while he summoned very powerful attacks for a continuous volley against the creatures.

What do you think would be harder to do, destroy one with your fist or blasting with energy from a distance? As shown Iron Man couldn't scratch one with his fists. Thor's was a sustained barrage of lightning that was damaging them which is totally different from one shotting one with a punch.

IIRC the Frost Giants realm was already badly damaged and isn't something Hulk couldn't have done himself with a well placed ground pound.

Thor called the lightning down into himself, sent it through the building and then channeled it back through himself. At least that's how it appeared. Since when has Thor needed to brace himself to a structure to channel his power? His own super strength should be enough.

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Did you not think it was for comic relief?

Did you really want to see Thor forget about the aliens and loki and come back and whallop Hulk?

Also If I just fought a monster side by side with an ally I probably wouldn't think he would slug me right after killing a flying monster...
yes i know it was comic relief...and it was hilarious

but it also is a strength feat for hulk


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the building channeled and stored lightning...essentially allowing thor to fire a much more powerful and concentrated blast...I think the movie makes it pretty obvious the building contributed to thor's most powerful attack. if i remember correctly, they specifically showed the lightning currents going up and down the building to indicated that it was storing it for one huge unleashing by thor.


So the building stored the lightning at it's top for Thor which he then directed at the aliens?

That definitely makes more sense than what I thought you originally meant, and while I'm not against the idea I'm not in agreement either because Thor summons a huge amount of lightning into Mjolnir and redirects the blast with the hammer like one large motion. At the very least, it was the main conductor for the attack.

The building was shown flowing with electrical charge but there was never emphasis on what you mean as far as I can tell.


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whether you like it or not newjak, it happened.

i highly doubt that if thor did the same casual punch he could've knocked hulk offscreen.

it is a strength feat for hulk.
Hitting an unprepared Thor who only weighs maybe 300 pounds, that is being very generous, to is not that big of a strength feat.

If Hulk wasn't ready yes I do believe a punch from Thor would have been able to knock Hulk off screen in the same manor.


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So the building stored the lightning at it's top for Thor which he then directed at the aliens?

That definitely makes more sense than what I thought you originally meant, and while I'm not against the idea I'm not in agreement either because Thor summons a huge amount of lightning into Mjolnir and redirects the blast with the hammer like one large motion. At the very least, it was the main conductor for the attack.

The building was shown flowing with electrical charge but there was never emphasis on what you mean as far as I can tell.
i dont think they could've spelled it anymore clearly as they specifically showed the electricity going up and down the building


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Hitting an unprepared Thor who only weighs maybe 300 pounds, that is being very generous, to is not that big of a strength feat.

If Hulk wasn't ready yes I do believe a punch from Thor would have been able to knock Hulk off screen in the same manor.
first thor I believe is around 800 - 900 lbs

second, a CL100 is harder to knock off despite their weight, at least thats how its portrayed in comics


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yes i know it was comic relief...and it was hilarious

but it also is a strength feat for hulk

Yeah it was pretty ****ing good and unexpected laughing out loud

Okay fine impressive to do something like that to someone like thor. But I don't think if hulk's punch would have the same affect on a thor that knew he was in a fight against the Hulk.

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