You get one every time you level up. As in when you get enough xp to lvl up if you could lvl up normally after 20. You get some of those random shits from engrams and crap.
It won't progress. You need to find armor with light in them. You can do this by decoding engrams(Blue/Purple) and or getting the gear via Crucible playing or doing Vanguard strike missions. There is a lot of luck involved in getting the legendary/exotic ones tho. And I mean horrrible luck
I mean you get random loot rewards on vanguard strikes and crucible. You can also farm for engrams on patrols/venus. You can gain strange coins from leveling up(I mean not really lvling up but gaining enough XP) and these in turn can be used to buy legendary equipment/gear from the weekend merchant that looks like RE4's merchant lol. You can also buy the gear from the crucible/vanguard vendors and there are factions too. Its kind of confusing, but you'll figure it out.
At least I could give you a short resume lol. I was all lost and hopeless when I reached 20
Also yesterday while playing two people turned the corner and rushed me thinking they had me by numbers and I just held down the fire button and let my shotty prove them otherwise! It was a great feeling
Keep in mind that I am coming from games like Black Ops 2 and Call of Duty Ghosts where I usually dominated most matches. I've played with RJ and Impediment so they know I'm no slouch. I'm not amazing but I'm pretty dang good.
Also, when I start shooting a player, first, and they can shoot and kill me once, with shitty aim, then the game needs a bit of balancing IMO. I think the health is far too high in the game. It needs to be about 1/4 of what it is, now.
Also, part of my problem was using the Fusion Rifle properly. You cannot just fire it and run like I was doing. I was treating it like a shotgun and it is not. When the Fusion Rifle fires, you have to keep aiming for almost a full second while it fires. It doesn't fire all at once. It fires a bunch of tiny shots over about .5 seconds to a full second.
Once I figured that out withthe Fusion Rifle, I started one-shotting people and went on a 5 kill streak. That was the last match I played.
Also, from the beginning, what I have been doing is using the Fusion Rifle for the first shot, switching to the Auto Rifle, and finishing off the rest of their health. That seems to be a very fast an effective way of winning gun fights if your first shot with the Fusion Rifle doesn't hit perfectly.
I have a question: I shot a layer, point blank, right in the head, with the fusion rifle, on two different occasions. Didn't kill him. I was on the phone with RJ at the time explaining how the game needed balance in multiplayer. Why did this happen?
The player was a level 24 player, by the way. Does his armor have anything to do with it? I also could not put him down with my Auto Rifle after unloading most of the clip on him (other players, that was enough to put down almost 2 players). What is up? Is there something about the other classes that I am not aware of that makes them have much more HP than other players (Titan class??)?
Basically, my frustration is coming from the fact that i can jump into any online FPS game and do, at worst, average, in my very first match. I jump into multiplayer in Destiny, die 20 times, and only get 3 kill my first match.
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My phrasing came off too harshly. You're clearly a good player. You're clearly better than I am. My aim seems better and my reaction speed seems much better and I am still getting my ass handed to me. Clearly, I'm ****ing up, majorly, and you've figured out how to play.
It is possible that the match-making is putting me with really good players. I am not sure how it determined I should play with those players. They are shooting me twice with guns other than fusion rifles and shotguns, and I die. No, they do not have their special powers activated. I have no non-shotgun and fusion rifle weapons that can two-shot anyone. Not a Scout Rifle, not a hand cannon.
Well Titans are supposed to have more health then the other classes. This is supposed to be balanced out by the other classes having quicker shield regen or higher agility and speed.
And this style of combat is more like Halo with some Call of Duty mixed in. As in it's less about getting the drop and more about having a good plan to quickly put a foe down.
Fusion Rifle is always a good choice for that especially if you get at charging it up right as you know you are about to encounter someone.
The Auto Rifle is money close to mid range. Pulse rifle is money for mid range head shots.
Shotgun is still the best close range option as long as the person is good at using the Fusion Rifle to stay just out of killing range.
But yeah I generally use Pulse Rifle and Shotgun since I have an exotic one.
At first I was using Scout Rifle but I could not win any mid range matches after switching to Pulse Rifle my KDR has gone up to about 1.7 to 2.5 on average.
It is also possible that you're just f*cking amazing at this game. But, yes, you're doing things in the game that I have never tried.
Since I am now heavily invested into this game, love it, and want to play probably hundreds of hours on it, I should stop whining and just play until I am good. I will try out your suggestions. Thanks a trillion for the feedback and input.
No problem I have more if you need help. Also I think my average points per game lately has been around 4K to 5K for control.
I also have my bad games but being able to win mid range battles is pretty key this game, or being really good at only attacking someone when they get close and not giving them the chance to go farther out.
I think right now the bane of my existence for my build are great Fusion rifle users cause they hit the in-between close and mid range distance where I cannot kill someone quickly while they can. I think the best counter to the Fusion Rifle imo is a good Auto Rifle cause you can unload on them before they get a chance to charge up. Of course I have not tested that theory yet.
Sniper rifle is also good at key points on certain maps. First Light is one, Bastion I think is the other.
And glad you are enjoying the game more!
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lol no offence taken. I do tend to have bad reaction time. If someone gets the first shot off its rare I get the kill but I do alright. When I first played this game(including the beta) I was terrible. I couldn't get kills point blank with a shotgun lol now after a lot of practice I have snipped people out of vehicles. Thing is with my class...once I come back from the dead I get full health and a "sun shield" that gives me huge damage soak for the duration. I have ran straight at people before and just let them empty a clip into me without dying and getting the single shot melee kill. I did that once to a guy in rumble and he was in the lead by about 1000 points but as soon as I did that he quit out lol.
Anyways I feel I have rambled off lol. From what you're saying I bet those players are using Scout Rifles. If you have great accuracy and are a fast shot its the best weapon ever. Double tap to the head and its over. It also might depend on the perks your weapon offer. A friend of mine got a primary that does extra damage per bullet once he gets to the last half of the clip. I just got a new primary that straightens out the longer its fired.
I think the health is all right in this game. At least people drop faster than they did in Halo.
The best advice Dadude can be given is to stay close to his team mates. That was the #1 rule in Halo, and it is still part of Bungie's gameplan IMHO.
Also by staying close to team mates you can gain advantage from passives that affect cooldowns etc(Sunsinger)
I think the Scout Rifle is ass. Fires too slow to be reliable IMHO. Been seeing much more Fusion users, they're getting kind of annoying but I still trust my sniper.
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There is only one situation where you will beat another primary weapon user with the Scout Rifle and that is at fairly long range. By that point you're better of using a sniper rifle.