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Does Bauer have some heart condition I don't know about? WOW. So not only are providing false feats for McClane, but now you are coming up with false weaknesses for Bauer?? For Shame ....
Unless you saying that and hour and a half of electroshock torture won't kill you and is completely ineffective on a human heart? Because if so...
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Given Bauer's superhuman strength, stamina, and durability, and proven H2H skills to the point of being able to easily kill a man with his bare hands I'm seeing them all succumb to a neck snap
Not if emerging alive despite repeatedly close proximity to bone pulverizing explosions, resistances to bone shattering falls, gunshots and other injuries blunt trauma or otherwise have been anything so far to go by...
Nothing false about Bauer's heart attacks.
And no, I moved on. But I wish you luck with your upcoming exam!
Well Karl (Even when impersonating someone with a snapped neck whilst hanging there on that chain/noose) and Targo didnt succumb to any neck snappings...
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No I'm saying they are both lucky in the sense that they don't get killed in the various gunfights they've been in. If you say the calibre of opposition is amazingly high in the world of Bauer and Bourne why do their enemies continually miss them in gunfights? You mentioned Bauer getting tortured, the fact he wasn't killed outright would be lucky would it not?
You call McClane lucky but ignore it when Bauer escapes 8 seasons worth of gunfights or a trapped torture situation.
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The fact that you and Sadako can't comprehend this Kindergarten logic is just further proof that you need to stop drinking all that McBallsweat and start using common sense
What?
This is not what I stated at all. we are talking about a H2H match and gunfight. How does the McCar Launch (which you STILL haven't proven Bauer can't replicate) have anything to do with that
I love how you are hanging onto that "car launch" feat for dear life. Especially after I "dominated" your "McClane dominates F-35" claims. Hilarious that it's THE ONLY FEAT YOU CAN PRODUCE out of FOUR films that Bauer does not completely outclass McClane in doing even better, and even then, that's just because Bauer never found himself in that particular circumstances
This thread is about Bauer doing a DH gauntet, which I was clearly referring to the whole time, not "McClane Vs Bauer H2H", we have that going in another thread already. So it seems if someone failed basic schooling, it's you.
Bauer clearly couldn't pass this gauntlet. It's not fro me to prove that Bauer couldn't do cartoony-feats thereby passing the films, it's for you to prove he could. Debating 101, that. You're also using the no-limit again.
You seemed fixated with homosexual activities, son. Just an observation, not hating
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That's all? Blunt force trauma? Jack eats blunt force trauma for breakfast,
and no, by the way, that isn't anything to go by because none of which you stated is equivalent to the power output of an hour and a half of concentrated torture, not to mention McClane usually had to take a moment after to rest and cry in his handkerchief after undergoing it
Nothing false about McClane getting the ****ing crap kicked out of him on the plane
Because you lost the argument. Okay. It makes perfect sense.
Because they fought "Crying like a biznitch" John McClane, and not "Rip your throat out with his teeth" Jack Bauer
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I apologize for this lapse in logic. I'll admit I got a little carried away. That said...
When was this officially announced. There's nothing to suggest Bauer can't take it, since he's taken on far worse.
And Bauer? What about McClane? Are we just going to forget that he still has to find the Dobson Override in 2 hours or every nuclear reactor in the US will undergo a meltdown? Please do indulge me on how he's going to do this
Again, Bauer is simply not cartoony enough. Thor's taken out an army of Frost Giants, he's not passing 'Searching for Bobby Fischer' though cos of it, he simply doesn't have the chess feats.
Again, I've not seen 24 so I can't comment of exact plot points and McClane's ability to overcome them, but as noted, McClane's done a lot with little to no back and resources, if he had the CTU, Government Agents and Mercs helping him, who is to say.
Maybe eating all those caused the heart weakness then?
False statement. You have no way to determine whether or not McClane jumping out in your total surprise at you under a sheet will or will not fail to yield that energy.
No I left cause all of my teachers were a band of international robbers and masterminds...so naturally when McClane slaughtered them all, I was left with no course to attend.
John McClane simply pumps out tears to allow for more pound for pound kickassness at a cellular, and even sub atomic level.
As DH1 showed...when his feet cry blood, or his eyes bleed steely tears, terrorists die.
I think the lad means Bauer could have bitten the Colonel, all the members of both Special Forces teams and the pilot to death; possibly with just one bite.
Since you brought up Colonel Stuart and McClane losing to him several times now as some basis for claiming Bauer > McClane, I must point out that if you stepped back and looked at the scene with unbiased and none McHating eyes, McClane didn't really lose.
Fact: When McClane and Stuart faced off, McClane had previously gone through several rigorous scenes, while Stuart was fresh.
Fact: Despite Stuart punching/kicking McClane down, McClane tanked it and continued to rise and press forward each time.
Fact: Stuart "won" by using the cheap BFR tactic.
Logic dictates that Stuart resorted to BFR because he realized he couldn't defeat McClane in a fight, he could only beat on him while McClane relentlessly pushed forward. In a scenario where Stuart couldn't resort to BFR tactics, McClane wins due to perseverance. /fact
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Yeah he did. He got his ass kicked off the plane and then luckily noticed that there was a long line of gas leading from it. If there wasn't, McClane would have lost and the film would have been over
So ****ing what? It's hilarious considering that Bauer went through the exact same thing of facing an opponent who was fresh while he had already been (literally) pushed to his physical limits. Note that rather than getting his ass-kicked, Bauer did a wall-run neck snap
Fact: Stuart is an old ass man, so I'm surprised he's not working at some McDowell's somewhere
Fact: Stuart is not equal to Bauer on any physical level at any point during the film
Because punching and kicking always outdoes a plane crash and torture to your physical limits, doesn't it?
That makes no sense whatsoever
Bauer would have snapped his neck. No BFR possible
Logic dictates
Bauer>>>Guy who kicked McClane's ass
Bauer>>>>>>McClane
McClane can also win against Winnie the Pooh. Doesn't mean Jack shit because Bauer far outclasses Stuart in H2H and endurance
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BTW, I love how you say "If McClane wasn't under those circumstances, he would have beat Stuart". As you can see, circumstances have a lot to do with how an event goes down, including a Ford launch
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