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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lestov16
Yeah he did. He got his ass kicked off the plane and then luckily noticed that there was a long line of gas leading from it. If there wasn't, McClane would have lost and the film would have been over
So ****ing what? It's hilarious considering that Bauer went through the exact same thing of facing an opponent who was fresh while he had already been (literally) pushed to his physical limits. Note that rather than getting his ass-kicked, Bauer did a wall-run neck snap
Fact: Stuart is an old ass man, so I'm surprised he's not working at some McDowell's somewhere
Fact: Stuart is not equal to Bauer on any physical level at any point during the film
Because punching and kicking always outdoes a plane crash and torture to your physical limits, doesn't it?
That makes no sense whatsoever
Bauer would have snapped his neck. No BFR possible
Logic dictates
Bauer>>>Guy who kicked McClane's ass
Bauer>>>>>>McClane
McClane can also win against Winnie the Pooh. Doesn't mean Jack shit because Bauer far outclasses Stuart in H2H and endurance
Your post did nothing to counter the facts I laid forth concerning that scene.
You then went on to rant how Bauer is better when I wasn't discussing Baeur at all, but showing that Stuart beat McClane through BFR in that specific scene.
What basis do you have in declaring that Bauer is better than Stuart at H2H? Stuart clearly has skills.
Fact: Stuart was 40 at the time of Diehard 2.
Fact: Bauer was 35-44 in 24. Yeah "old ass man" is right, lol.
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May 24th, 2012 08:56 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lestov16
He actually allowed it to get to the point that they escaped?! LOL! Bauer would have killed them all before they could have even boarded that plane
So....All of this post was basically a run of jokes to cover up the fact that you've lost your argument. Good
Only; McClane's employed stratagem allowed for the saving of the flights in the air running on vapour at that time by creatively spawning a makeshift runway for the planes to land by.
Your proposed plan for Bauer = Death for hundreds of people.
So looking at the reality of it: McClane allowed nobody to escape, the bad guys all McDied and the hostages were saved.
I guess its the way I tell 'em..
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May 24th, 2012 09:10 PM
Robtard
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lestov16
McClane can also win against Winnie the Pooh. Doesn't mean Jack shit because Bauer far outclasses Stuart in H2H and endurance
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Your post did nothing to counter the facts I laid forth concerning that scene.
You then went on to rant how Bauer is better when I wasn't discussing Baeur at all, but showing that Stuart beat McClane through BFR in that specific scene.
What basis do you have in declaring that Bauer is better than Stuart at H2H? Stuart clearly has skills.
Fact: Stuart was 40 at the time of Diehard 2.
Fact: Bauer was 35-44 in 24. Yeah "old ass man" is right, lol.
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May 24th, 2012 09:13 PM
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Bauer made a makeshift runway for himself (and 100 or so passengers on the plane with him) when the corrupt POTUS sent a F-35 (NOT piloted by a dumbass) to blow up the plane Jack hijacked to stop him from exposing him. And this only took up an hour of his time
When terrorists seiged the White House and attempted to execute POTUS on national television, Jack alone improvised an escape.
As long as the punchline is clear
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May 24th, 2012 09:18 PM
Robtard
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lestov16
Bauer made a makeshift runway for himself (and 100 or so passengers on the plane with him) when the corrupt POTUS sent a F-35 (NOT piloted by a dumbass) to blow up the plane Jack hijacked to stop him from exposing him. And this only took up an hour of his time
When terrorists seiged the White House and attempted to execute POTUS on national television, Jack alone improvised an escape.
As long as the punchline is clear
All this relates to Bauer's supposed impossible to beat and completely flawless H2H how? Did he H2H the runway into shape? Did he H2H the F-35?
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May 24th, 2012 09:20 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Fact: Stuart was 40 at the time of Diehard 2.
Fact: Bauer was 35-44 in 24. Yeah "old ass man" is right, lol.
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My apologies. For some reason I thought you were talking about Grant. That's why I made the McDowell's reference lol.
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May 24th, 2012 09:29 PM
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Ahhh yes...the McBreakfast.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lestov16
Bauer made a makeshift runway for himself (and 100 or so passengers on the plane with him) when the corrupt POTUS sent a F-35 (NOT piloted by a dumbass) to blow up the plane Jack hijacked to stop him from exposing him. And this only took up an hour of his time
When terrorists seiged the White House and attempted to execute POTUS on national television, Jack alone improvised an escape.
But the issue here is the Die Hard Gauntlet.
Its about the situations in the Die Hard movies.
And Ive already listed why Jack fails there, and thank you for the added, new way in which he fails, which I did not previously account for.
If you can think of a third way for him to fail, to amuse us further, I wait with open ears.
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May 24th, 2012 09:30 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lestov16
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My apologies. For some reason I thought you were talking about Grant. That's why I made the McDowell's reference lol.
Eggs.
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May 24th, 2012 09:34 PM
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May 24th, 2012 09:36 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
All this relates to Bauer's supposed impossible to beat and completely flawless H2H how? Did he H2H the runway into shape? Did he H2H the F-35?
Jack killed the most people in a single hour in "Day 6: 5:00am-6:00am" (13)
how many mercenaries were there?
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May 24th, 2012 09:40 PM
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McClane killed that amount in under 20 seconds in DieHard 2.
All highly trained corpses.
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May 24th, 2012 09:44 PM
Robtard
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lestov16
Jack killed the most people in a single hour in "Day 6: 5:00am-6:00am" (13)
how many mercenaries were there?
McClane killed 23 people total in DH2.
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May 24th, 2012 09:46 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Plus McClane once took out a chopper by shooting a wire. (A Wire !!) from range in order to take the chopper out in a clever manner.
Its worth noting that McClane didn't shoot the wire itself, rather he shot the junction/breaker box it was attached to which dislodged the wire.
So the cleverness of it remains. Even if the skill needed to do so and the exact manner in which it was done are not as you described.
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May 24th, 2012 09:46 PM
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Fair play. But still pretty impressive, especially at that range.
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May 24th, 2012 09:48 PM
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Did Bauer break double figures in less than 10 seconds?
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May 24th, 2012 10:08 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Fair play. But still pretty impressive, especially at that range.
Oh yeah. That target size and range, with a snub nose revolver. Is an impressive shot and more to the point here. Said shot is an ingenious solution to facing a helicopter with a revolver.
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May 24th, 2012 10:14 PM
Robtard
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Lestov16
Did McClane use an explosion, because if so, that doesn't mean jack shit.
I do like how you arbitrarily declare what should or shouldn't count as a kill.
In that case, I'm going to declare that the only kills that now count are kills done by a flying car into a helicopter. McClane 1 Bauer 0.
Bauer still can't pass the DH Gauntlet.
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